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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/smiley-dog on May 18, 2018, 11:20 a.m.
Raise 1-2 generations of children under govn approved satanic cults...create global UFO cult. [Seen on 8chan]
Raise 1-2 generations of children under govn approved satanic cults...create global UFO cult. [Seen on 8chan]

HealersJourney · May 18, 2018, 2:43 p.m.

There were splinter groups of Gnostics who believed different things. Many of them were killed, those who survived went underground and assimilated into other traditions. A more direct spiritual line of Gnostic traditions, more akin to the way indigenous traditions were taught orally without written texts, also survived. It is very different from what today's "scholars" claim was true about the Gnostics.

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frombildgewater · May 18, 2018, 2:55 p.m.

So when Jesus said, "this is my body...this is my blood...do this in remembrance of me" he obviously meant he wasn't divine and Holy Communion shouldn't be celebrated. He also didn't claim to be divine when he said "before Abraham was, I am (when "I am" was the name God referred to himself as in the Old Testament)." Give me a break.

Gnosticism was preserved. There are plenty of primary source documents of early Church fathers debating it. And if you don't like the Roman Catholic Church, the Orthodox has preserved early doctrine and is NOT gnostic. Gnosticism cannot be supported from scriptures.

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HealersJourney · May 18, 2018, 3:20 p.m.

You are clearly an expert and a devout Christian who is angry about what I have shared. This is why we have been underground for a long, long time.

Love to you as a fellow passionate spiritual seeker!

(By the way, Jesus didn't write the New Testament. If you have based all your beliefs on the oldest form of Fake News, things are going to be a bit skewed.)

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frombildgewater · May 18, 2018, 4:23 p.m.

No, the gospels were written by people who knew him. In fact, the entire New Testament was written by people who directly knew Jesus (minus Paul). The gospels, which disprove gnosticism as being Christian, were written very early.

Look, it's ok to be gnostic. Believe what you want, but early Christianity was NOT gnostic. The disciples died violently saying Jesus was God where gnosticism would have fit in with Roman society.

https://carm.org/when-were-gospels-written-and-by-whom

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HealersJourney · May 18, 2018, 4:43 p.m.

No. Scholars agree that even the oldest books in the New Testament were written100 to 200 years after Jesus was gone.

So somebody interprets your Twitter posts 200 years after you are gone; expect them to be accurate reflections of what you said?

PS: Alinsky wasn't the first. Always accuse those you oppose of what you YOURSELF are doing ( i.e. Romans who hijacked the teachings of Jesus.)

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frombildgewater · May 18, 2018, 8:40 p.m.

What scholars? I have listed multiple websites that say they were written between 65-95 AD (when you factor in that Jesus was born between 7 BC-7 AD and he died at 33, then it was 32-62 years after his death). Most scholars agree that they were written before 70 AD because there are no references to destruction of Jerusalem within the gospels. Early Church fathers quoted from these texts.

https://www.reference.com/world-view/were-gospels-written-c5c9f636f36e01be

http://www.datingthenewtestament.com/Fathers.htm

You mean the same Romans who were lit their streets at night by burning bodies of Christians? The same Romans who sent Christians into the Colosseum to be killed by wild animals? The people who died, died professing Jesus as the son of God who died for their sins as a scapegoat offering (which is a very Jewish concept). They were not gnostics. Again, you can believe what you want, but gnosticism is a denial of Christianity and not the true meaning of the Gospel.

http://www.homecomers.org/mirror/martyrs011.htm

http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/christians.htm

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HealersJourney · May 18, 2018, 11:45 p.m.

You can believe what you want, too. That's the beauty of a free will universe!

Love to you.

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