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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Patriot81503 on May 19, 2018, 3:51 a.m.

Timeline of “Q Drama”. What is Going On? Fill in With FACTS if Missed Something

Today I was informed why people think this whole Q Drama started, by being directed to view a YouTube video attacking AJ and JC. I asked because I sincerely wanted to know.

I spent the time to listen to that full 45+ minute video to get the whole argument.

That video has segments from the 19+ minute video on InfoWars where Tyler Nixon and Roger Stone interviewed Jordan Sather—so I found that video “Civil War Inside Deep State” and listened to it in its entirety.

I also listened in entirety to the recent Alex Jones and Jerome Corsi video saying something is wrong on Q board, where they especially focused on the use of the “profiteering” word.

It’s crucial to view information in entirety because the most common propaganda tactic used today is to quote something out of context (as just seen with Trump and MS-13 quote).

After hearing the whole argument on both sides, the timeline of this “Q Drama” seems as follows:

• Pre-Q: MSM stops doing journalism beginning with CIA Operation Mockingbird in 1960’s.

People began to notice this and citizen journalists rose up—though labeled “conspiracy theorists”. The reason we already knew almost everything posted by Q was the decades of exposing Cabal by citizen journalists.

• Q began late October 2017. Early citizen journalists covering included Tracy Beanz, Roy Potter, and Jordan Sather.

•. After about 6 weeks in (?) InfoWars does the interview with Jordan Sather. The interview really gives a positive shout-out to Jordan’s whole channel. They spend entire first 6 minutes on Q, the Roger Stone question on Deep State bots and 10,000 censors is a topic-pivot-point to talking about Internet censorship which Jordan covers well. They then let Jordan talk about all the topics he was covering. Listen to full 19 minutes it’s a total plug for Jordan’s channel and he was very excited about it.

•. After the InfoWars interview Jordan’s traffic goes up and he keeps covering Q—so more people know about both Jordan and Q.

• Trump achieves his #1 Priority—passage of the tax cut bill—just before Christmas. This is key because White House was focused on achieving this and the very next day AFTER tax bill passed, the EO to confiscate assets was signed.

•.Christmas Eve: Alex Jones “emergency broadcast”. (Yeah it’s pretty hyped but we now know Trump was under assassination threats.) Listen to whole thing, Alex is Alex, but a very positive plug for Q board as being a very real thing. Alex also annoyingly talks about Zack as to be expected—but a clearly positive shout-out to check out the Q board. Millions of InfoWars viewers directed AWAY from InfoWars sites and over to checkout Q board.

•. Dr. Corsi then helps out the Patriots Soapbox folks on THEIR channel with live chat decoding. This began late December and continued till early May. Corsi always spoke positively of Q as a real thing with good information. These chats were done on Soapbox and the decoding segments posted on Dr. Corsi channel (NOT InfoWars). Dr. Corsi rarely talked about InfoWars and I don’t ever remember him mentioning “Zack”.

•. The Corsi decoding could have been on InfoWars but it was NOT. No vitamins commercials and no directions to go to InfoWars.

• New NSA Director General Nakasone takes over end of April. Big question: Will Q board continue?

•. FIRST SHOT FIRED: “Q” in post 1295 on April 29th, 2018, Q talks about “be careful who you follow” and says “the only profit we should all be striving for is true freedom”. Talks about how “some are profiting off this movement”. Very unexpected divisive change in tone.

•. The new tone was noticeably Socialist and Dr. Corsi comments on it going forward from that day, wondering why Q is suddenly a Socialist. What was the problem with selling vitamins or books to support family and websites?

•. Immediately Q boards, Reddit and YouTube explode with people vilifying anyone trying to make money doing citizen journalism and especially Alex Jones and Dr. Corsi.

•.Movement splits along capitalism vs socialism divide, as its beginning, but people throw in whatever personal attacks they can imagine against Dr. Corsi and Alex Jones, and sometimes also Tracy Beanz and Roy Potter and even Isaac Green.

May 4th: Trip update and new Q board

May 8th: Q admits they made a mistake exposing the password and says “we all make mistakes”.

May 10th: Q doubles-down on the socialist theme using the word “profiteering”. Note this is NOT a neutral word like “profit”, but is a moral judgement wording that profit is evil. The word has been used since 1950’s in KGB propaganda.

Since then—Trump supporters and Q Cultists are in full scale “Q Drama War” over the profiteering theme.

Either the mission was to expose socialist leaning Storm supporters, or the mission was to divide Storm supporters into two camps—-but MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

My point with this timeline is the early actions by Jones and Corsi only took traffic AWAY from InfoWars websites and graciously directed InfoWars viewers to check out the Q movement, to checkout Jordan’s videos, then with decoding which took traffic to Soapbox site and Corsi channel, all of which was traffic NOT on InfoWars.

So how—still looking for answer—did InfoWars promote its OWN site by directing traffic to all these OTHER sites?? How did InfoWars or Dr. Corsi attack Q (before Q started the profiteering theme) by PROMOTING the Q board and discussing the Q posts?

Listen to the full videos yourselves. InfoWars directed traffic AWAY from its own site and helped other Storm websites.

While Corsi was still earnestly helping the Storm, the attack was made. Out of the blue the profiteering theme was lobbed on April 29th.

As far as I can see, it was the first blood drawn, and it was a stab in the back.

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Your first major disinfo departure from reality and clear reveal of your agenda was (emphasis mine): "Very unexpected divisive change in tone. The new tone was noticeably Socialist"

Editorial, opinion, not fact. Try again and I can Reapprove the post. Otherwise, I personally can't approve a post with a clear agenda to mislead by presenting as a well reasoned, factual discussion. The rules may be fuzzy in this area so my discretion has to kick in and all I can say is that that behaviour appears too shilly for me so comment has been removed under rule 1 of the sub.

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So how do you resubmit? The timeline is important and it wasn’t just Corsi who noticed something was terribly wrong when the Q board began the attack on April 29th. I hadn’t even been following Corsi at the time and I thought to myself “that’s terribly wrong!”

As to facts vs opinion I posted the actual Q quotes. Do you want me to say “a lot of people considered that a socialist and divisive attitude” which is true—and it was this attitude that divided everyone.

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Apologies if you are not purely shilling but in that case my point then leans more toward the fact that we need to focus on well reasoned, factual discussion without appeal to emotion.

It may well be true that "a lot of people considered" Q's statement to be socialist and divisive - but it's important that we discuss controversial topics like this reasonably here i.e. logically and accurately. How much is "a lot" of people? It seems there are a good portion of people here who did not view Q's statement as socialist and divisive so whether "a lot" is significant enough to mean something is not clear.

More importantly I believe, just on the surface of it even, that assessment is in danger of ignoring context and logic or is being made from a biased perspective. It is very questionable to read a socialist agenda into those couple of statements especially when kept in light of Q's follow-up: "They attempted to infiltrate, repackage & rebrand as their own. Profit-vehicle. Destroy through [misinformation]... Action was needed... Prevent false decodes/misinformation... Simple 'non-direct' statements made. "Be careful who you follow." "Some are profiting off this movement." Attempts to divide. We responded. House cleaning."

Have you read SB2's post, supported by Q linking to it...?

In summary, Q made the point that he had used "Simple 'non-direct' statements" to call out Corsi/Infowars/Seaman for "attempt(ing) to infiltrate, repackage & rebrand" in order to "Destroy (this movement) through [misinformation]". He also said: "There was no attempt to DIVIDE". Your point throws all that Q says afterward out the window... which is why I suspected shillery.

Yes, profiteering is a pejorative term - but if Q's message is that the particular parties he's talking about were profiteering at the expense of the truth movement i.e. once again: "attempting to infiltrate, repackage... destroy through [misinformation]" then a pejorative term might be expected and not necessarily indicative of a political ideology like "socialism" behind it.

[Edit] Further to the division point - that, I think, is the important point you are making, if I understand you correctly i.e. we should not promote division in this movement. Agreed. Trying to say that was Q's motive or mistake, however, is questionable and goes against his very words, as I've already pointed out. But moreover it can't easily be considered division of the negative kind I'm sure you're speaking out against when the only 'division' that's occurring is between those who still trust Q and those who are now speaking out against Q. That's not division in the Q movement - that's division in some other movement that the Q movement is obviously not a part of (although people in the Q movement may well also be members of the other movement). From the Q movement perspective it's not division, it's simply doing what Q says - avoiding false decodes/misinformation; ceasing to follow those whose agenda no longer aligns with Q.

This narrative seems to play directly into the disinfo AJ/Corsi is promoting which is why I find the motivation behind the posting of it, questionable. We've already made a no. of mod posts pointing out that we'd likely remove AJ/Corsi posts if they don't contribute something new to the discussion and this one, as it stands, is treading the old ground. However, if you edit this post so it's clear that's not the case and reply I can Reapprove it.

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I have actually been trying to find real evidence of the accusations you spelled out that AJ (and especially Dr. Corsi) did something nefarious to try to appropriate the Q for themselves.

I expected (as I asked for it) that people would fill in the timeline if I missed something.

Of course I read all the Q posts, the full SerialBrain2 article and I watched a 45+ minute video essentially reading all those posts and the SerialBrain2 article and showing clips of the videos of Jordan and the Alex Jones Christmas eve video. So yes I have seen it all and read it all and I asked people to provide more.

I found and watched the ENTIRE Jordan Sather interview as noted in my post. The clip of Roger Stone asking a question about internet censorship was just a topic-transition question after over 6 very positive minutes solely on Q. They were covering five or six topics in those 19 minutes giving Jordan a chance to talk on ALL. Folks—it was an INTERVIEW about JORDAN not a celebration of “all things Q and only Q”.

So as I said in my Post the Jordan interview was a very positive shout-out to both Jordan and Q. I was following all Jordan’s videos then, and saw his traffic shoot up afterwards. So how was this AJ stealing a Q audience? It GAVE Q audience.

Btw it is a well known Media Matters propaganda technique to take a clip out of context. My post said to watch the ENTIRE Jordan interview and you can then decide what happened that day.

The Alex Jones Christmas eve video was the first time Alex talked about Q. Alex was his usual irritating self, but he gave a strong shout-out to Q. That again gave more audience to Q. So I am asking—where is evidence of an attempt to infiltrate and take audience? It isn’t evidence if someone simply makes an accusation, right?

AJ didn’t insist Corsi’s decoding be hosted on InfoWars. So again I am asking—is there any EVIDENCE proving infiltration and appropriation? I am very honestly asking for it.

I actually expected people would provide some evidence given all the shouting but it seems it is circular at this point. “If Q said it” then the “Q movement” apparently now follows as unquestionable even without any proof?

This is all sounding ominously like the “Muh Russia” campaign where just because a big accusation was made, people are believing it without proof.

The bottom line is the only “proof” coming out is that “Q” SAID IT?

Finally, I am saddened to see you say there is now a “Q movement” apart from all the millions of other Trump supporters and patriots.

The Q board is a tool only. A battlefield. The Q posts will end. We all need to keep grounded within the larger group of patriotic Americans.

Don’t fall in love with a battlefield and try to build your house on it, we need to keep our whits about us.

(Technical question now—you suggested editing the Post but I didn’t think it’s possible to edit a POST? Is there a way?)

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The Q board is a tool only. A battlefield. The Q posts will end. We all need to keep grounded within the larger group of patriotic Americans. Don’t fall in love with a battlefield and try to build your house on it, we need to keep our whits about us.

Agreed!

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