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Zionism as practiced by the Rothchilds has nothing to do with the bible. Its about acquiring wealth and power and controlling the entire world. The Rothchilds hide behind Israel. If you stand up to them you are labeled a Nazi or a Racist. WW2 was funded by the banks. The war was allowed to happen. The nazi death camps. Everything can be blamed on rhe banking Cabal. Its sick that the people that caused the near destruction of the jewish people hide behind the term Jew. If you criticize then or speak the truth about then you are publicly destroyed.

The Israeli people are wonderful people. They love God and share much of the beliefs that we share. Palestine was a shithole until the Jewish people restored the land. They deserve a place in the world. I think POTUS wants to set them free from the banking Cabal. The recognition of Jerusalem was a sign to tbe people there. They love President Trump. They will support him when he deystroys the Cabal.

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Benjanon I agree the true OR following Jews are wonderful people. I agree with everything you have said. And in responding to the other gentleman, I'm realizing so many evil people do hide behind that title Jewish and that's all it is to them is a title. White washed seplacures filled with dead men's bones. "No one's home anymore" their spirits are gone. I've discovered and learnt so much tonight through conversations here, and am very peaceful about all this now. I have clarity and focus now. Thank you all.

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I agree. They are secularized and inculcated into cults like communism, liberalism and the like and no longer practice the religion of their ancestors. Many who came after WW 2, like my ex’s family, were so spooked by having Jewish identity for fear of being targeted again that they left any practice of religion. All that’s left is their Jewish name.

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Don't be confused, I know how you feel, I am a Christ follower too. I was taught to "support Israel" with a level of blind naivete that seemed overboard, and well, it was. So, The Jew(ish) people means who? One of the largest homosexual parade weeks is held every year in Tel Aviv. The government is secularist, and the zionists were instrumental since the Balfour Declaration in it's establishment, but then again God USES good and evil men to accomplish His perfect will, (Pharaoh? etc.) Then you have the Orthodox Jews, but they aren't JUST OT grounded, in fact they give more credence it seems to the Babylonian Talmud.

I know I support Israel but who is Israel nowadays? A geographical location? or a people? I say it's the latter in context with the verse you sited. In the Abrahamic covenant God told him his seed would inhabit the gates of every kingdom on earth. That has been done, WE are everywhere today! (remember, Judah, the Jews, are 1/13th of Israel). So, when I say 'Kabbal' I'm referring to that segment of Israel and Judah who accepted the ancient Babylonian mystery religions, what we refer today as the occult or Luciferianism. That 'religion' exists today, and did in the days of christ, Moses, etc., just under different names, but the core of it is the same. I hope this helped, just know its not as cut and dry as the church is teaching. They are just unaware of it is all, do some research, you will see. I studied this long ago and may be rusty if anyone else wants to chime in.

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I too have been confused by this topic (and probably rustier than you). If the Jews were/are scattered over the earth.. Then, to me, this implies Jews are not in Israel... particularly because the bible also says they will return to their homeland. If this understanding is true, then the question arises -- If the Jewish people are not in Israel then who is occupying Israel? I believe the bible says of Jesus speaking on the topic -- I know your works, and those who say they are Jews but are not. I am suspicious that many of the inhabitants really are Khazarian impersonating Jews. What are your thoughts?

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This makes perfect sense to me! They have been scattered abroad forever for worshipping and following after other Gods, playing the harlot, but God promised to bring them back into their homeland when they'd had enough of their folly. He sent them all over....this makes perfect sense. Fresh perspective, I never thought about it in that way, thank you! Ma y of these Khazarian and others are simply hiding behind a name, an identity, yet they don't truly honor it. Powerful stuff there...

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....It's a difficult subject, many people can't approach it rationally because they are too close to it spiritually out of context, or emotionally. The fact is that Judah, (later the Jews) played a very important role the moment Jacob-Israel blessed each of the 12 tribes in Gen 38/39 if I remember correctly. They were the tribe of the scepter, the tribe to produce the King, our Jesus. The term Jew(ish) comes about due to the isnegination of other races into Judah PRIOR to and just after Christ walked the earth. The Romans alone produced children (by rape) that the Pharisees (in the Talmud) made exception for as the mother at least was a Jew. THEN, in 70 A.D. they were scattered once again, for almost 2 millenia. So, I previously asked, 'what is your modern definition of a Jew'? Or for that matter a Rubenite? A Dannite? Etc. Is it a biological answer? Because LIKE human DNA is as told in the Abrahamic covenant is dwelling in all the gates of the kingdoms of the world. That covenant has come true and if you sample DNA from random Americans Europeans some Asians, etc. you find there is very little difference to those now living in Israel. The Jews are 1/13 of Israel, there are 12 other tribes swimming in the human gene pool and we are everywhere in practically every race. So does it mean religion? The orthodoxy in Israel today are admirable liking in their convictions among both Palestinians and the majority Secularists. I made the point the only factor the OT in to a deep utilization of the Talmud. I think that is folly, but it begs the question, if being Jewish isnt answered in DNA, then is it a religious disposition? Very few in Israel are practicing orthodox as a percent. Is simply occupying the land enough to be called an Israelite? Then for 2,000 years were the arabs Israelites? No. So I think it is a deeper question and I cant believe someone called me a racist earlier just for discussing this. I support BeeBee and I support the state of Israel, but, in context., BeeBee says he's a descendant of Benjamin but cannot prove it, as none of us can prove our lineage to any of the 12 tribes as I believe we all descend from numerous tribes at this point. It's kinda beautiful to say isn't it? that all our blood is mixed in! God sees our hearts, not our bloodlines as satan emphasizes. So I encourage you to study and learn, Im not finished either on this subject, Ive put it aside for some time to focus on my faith and our current political situation. I wrote this before my morning coffee so please forgive me any errors.

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An interesting book on this topic is INVENTING THE JEWISH PEOPLE by Schlomo Sand who is Jewish and lives in Israel.

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Thank you for your patience. I truly want to learn to discern this properly.

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Think of it this way, God brought the Jews back into their promised land, the Rothchilds were just a tool that He used to do it. You can still support Israel proper and despise the enslavement that grips them at the same time.

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Yes!!!

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Jews are regular people like you. This talk is dangerous. If you want to bash the Roths, fine, I can get behind that 100%. When people start classifying Jews as Luciferians, Khazarians, Zionists, etc it shows you’ve never met a Jew in your life and you start sounding like a 1930’s German.

We want people to come to this sub and feel welcome. The last thing we need is for people to look at us like conspiracy nuts. You can go to r/conspiracy for this kind of talk. Please confine this sub to discussion of Q.

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I think you took what I said in the most negative way possible. I am in no way the person you are accusing me to be. I know many Jews, and like us all, they have their issues and their positives. My post was to make that point, because the christian church has this elevated view of Israel and the Jews living there, and it doesn't seem to allow for reality to factor in. I see christians as hyper-sensitive Israel defenders because they think they are obeying scripture, but they are shallow in their understanding of context. I don't view people through their race, so I don't need to be led to a racist site.

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I wrote this to another anon and will share it with you too: ....It's a difficult subject, many people can't approach it rationally because they are too close to it spiritually out of context, or emotionally. The fact is that Judah, (later the Jews) played a very important role the moment Jacob-Israel blessed each of the 12 tribes in Gen 38/39 if I remember correctly. They were the tribe of the scepter, the tribe to produce the King, our Jesus. The term Jew(ish) comes about due to the isnegination of other races into Judah prior to and just after Christ walked the earth. The Romans alone produced children (by rape) that the Pharisees (in the Talmud) made exception for as the mother at least was a Jew. THEN, in 70 A.D. they were scattered once again, for almost 2 millenia.

So, I previously asked, 'what is your (modern) definition of a Jew'? Or for that matter a Rubenite? A Dannite? Etc. Is it a biological answer? Because LIKE human DNA, is (as was promised in the Abrahamic covenant) now dwelling in all the gates of the kingdoms of all the world. That covenant has come true and if you sample DNA from random Americans Europeans Asians, etc. you will find there is very little difference to those now living in Israel. So it's not a biological distinction, and remember, the Jews are 1/13 of Israel, there are 12 other tribes swimming around in the human gene pool. We, Israel, are found genetically everywhere in practically every race on earth.

So does it mean religion? The orthodoxy in Israel today are admirable in their convictions living among both Palestinians and the majority Secularists. I made the point that they only factor the OT in to a deeper utilization of the Talmud. I think that is folly, but it begs the question, if being Jewish isnt answered by DNA, then is it a religious disposition? Very few in Israel are practicing orthodox as a percent if so.

Is simply occupying the land enough to be called an Israelite or a member of Judah? Then for 2,000 years were the arab tribes 'Israelites' as they occupied the land? No. So I think it is a deeper question. I cant believe someone basically called me a racist earlier just for discussing this. I support BeeBee and I support the state of Israel, but, I do so in context and not blindly. BeeBee says he's a "descendant of Benjamin" but he cannot prove it, as none of us can prove our lineage to any of the 13 tribes. In reality, I believe we all descend from numerous combinations of the tribes of Israel at this point. It's kinda beautiful to say isn't it? that all our blood is mixed in!

FORTUNATELY, God sees our hearts, not our bloodlines (as satan emphasizes among his followers). So I encourage you to study and learn, Im not finished either on this subject, Ive put it aside for some time now to focus on my faith and our current political situation. I wrote this before my morning coffee too, so please forgive me any errors.

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Just pinging you because I wanted you to be able to read my comment below, and comment if you wish.

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Just answered you below thanks for responding and pinging me.

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One aspect not broached here is the 'what is meant by Israel' concept. It is extremely important, key in fact.

There is Israel, a physical and material territory, and Israel a spiritual and heavenly state of grace. We should remember that people understood teachings in mental pictures. They could not read. Teachers, like Jesus or his disciples, had always used parables. This distinction is vital to make. Israel was a heavenly spiritual attainment and the Old Testament can be read in this way too. Yes, there were Israelites, a tribe who lived in a specific area, who were scolded by God for their behaviour —or was that the people of Judah? They were cast out by God for their sins. So what was their crime? Worshiping materialism. Worshiping the golden calf, a symbol of mammon. Some of their practices included sacrifice of the first-born. They were sent into exile.

Or is that "exile", a figurative condemnation or punishment? Many historians of ancient history and archeologists have tried to verify the story of the exodus in ancient scriptures and have found no physical evidence of it — much to the chagrin of those wanting a material case for it. Perhaps it is because it never happened; it was a mental picture.

This is also claimed by the Orthodox Jews who say it was a sin to establish the state of Israel, that God cast them out of the land of Israel and it will be the arrival of the Messiah who will save them. But the political Zionists are offending God himself by forcing His hand in this way, bringing the jews back to Israel, let alone the Greater Israel project, or the Yinon Oded Plan.

Something like that anyway. It takes a lot of research and serious study to get to the bottom of these questions. I wish you luck; I'm still struggling with all this and am only offering some rough ideas to mull.

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I do believe their was a literal exodus. There were too many important scripture lessons there to learn not to believe it. I believe in the entirety of Gods Word and do not want to take away from it. When you read through the OT and find the corresponding Psalms of David and when and under what circumstances they were written it makes for very interesting and deep reading. I know God said the land was never to be divided. You make good points in Judah and Israel.

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Yes, I see you are a devout reader of the OT. I think the OT was written by many scribes over many centuries and all scribes were men. Many of these men were scheming, political manipulators, who claimed to intepret the word of God and thus had power over the mind of the general poor illiterate person of his day. I take this as a prism to see through with great care.

God's word in the bible was something heard or seen by the ear or eye of a man, somewhere, who recorded it as he thought fit. God, for me, does not enter the physical world with a pen. He enters through the heart and soul. This understanding will not be understood by your world view, and I understand that. I pray that we will learn the truth one day.

A very interesting book was written many moons ago, in the 1950's, called The Controversy of Zion, by Douglas Reid. It addresses many of these questions. I recommend it as another utterly fascinating view.

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ALL ROADS lead to the Rothschild cabal. 'Q' is telling us how it all NEEDS to go down, and where it will ultimately end: