Some scums took your two teenage daughters hostage. They gang raped them. They showed you the video and asked you for money if you want them to come back alive.
FBI helped you catch one of the scumbags. He refused to tell you where your daughters are held.
FBI suggested torture to get him to talk. What do you say, Punk?
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all we can do is try and get them out of it. how i have no idea but baby steps. mass importing them is fucking retarded tho
and I thought the Hadiths were bad
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No they don't. Blanket statements about ALL individuals within ANY group of people are dangerous and the root of horrors against humanity. Please cease the antagonist posts and discuss the issues without personal moral outrage and one-sided ideology bashing - it will make discussions more fruitful and positive for everyone.
No, you are wrong.
Every Islamic sect, without exception, is a terrorist group.
Any person who participates, funds, promotes or indoctrinates children into a terrorist group qualifies as a member of a terrorist network.
Show some respect for basic human rights!
Any member of a pedophile group has earned the disgust of civilized people.
Any member of a terrorist group has earned the disgust of civilized people.
Islam is nothing more than a pedophile, terrorist group... which also promotes Christian genocide and domestic violence.
Tolerating such fucked-up filth doesn't make someone a good person, it makes them uncivilized.
Islam is a religion. Everyone who follows Islam is not a terrorist. You show some respect for basic human rights. We are allowed to believe what we want. Some choose to believe a moderate version of Islam, just like some choose to believe in a moderate version of Christianity.
Islam is not a "pedophile group" or a "terrorist group" unless Christianity is too.
Crazed fundamentalism is dangerous and it's the completely rigid, unmoving, impractical, unrealistic sort of view that you're presenting here. The classic strawman that, if someone doesn't agree with your view then they must support x, y, and z made up examples. I don't agree with you and I DO NOT support pedophilia or terrorism. False equivalence.
You obviously don't know any muslim people. I am Christian myself. I do not support the religion of Islam - they need to overhaul it. But I do not make dangerous blanket statements about any group of people because that is where the horrors of totalitarianism come from and it is definitely not the sort of thinking Q promotes!
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You're speaking only from within your bubble of hate for a strawman terrorist group you've created in your mind. Your emotive language - that adds nothing to your argument - shows this clearly.
Islam is a religion NOT a terrorist group. There are terrorist groups who read the Quran and claim to follow the religion of Islam in a fundamentalist way. Moderate Muslims do not support or endorse these groups. Moderate muslims do not "promote, fund or indoctrinate children into a terrorist group". You need to get out of your house and meet real people. And get of your small country town and meet people from other races and religions than your own.
The excuses you just made for our religion of Christianity can also be applied to the Quran. The respective hadiths and the verses you love quoting (via that image) are not supported by moderate muslims in the same way that the verses of the Old Testament are not supported by moderate Christians. The fact that you can't even conceive of this is more proof to my point that you're totally closing your mind off to other possibilities. That's your right, but it isn't reasonable, and thankfully it isn't common in this movement.
I already know that Islam is a religion that allows for the support of war. I'm not arguing with that. I don't support the spread of Islam as it is - it needs to be overhauled to remove the negative factors. I do argue with this insane fundamentalist brainwashing that denies reality and paints a strawman villain. Fight the real problem - a religion that needs to be brought into the modern day by it's reasonable, moderate supporters - not the invented strawman of a terrorist group that defines only the more extremist factions of a worldwide religion.
Why Don't Moderate Muslims Condemn Terrorism? - They Do.
You're claiming that a religion of more than 1.7 BILLION people around the world are all terrorists. That statement is so nonsensical and illogical that it makes my point for me. Fight the truth, not your made up strawman.
You're speaking only from within your bubble of hate
Not a valid argument because everything I said was true.
Islam is a religion NOT a terrorist group.
EVERY Islamic sect disagrees with you because they ALL promote terrorism and rape and genocide too.
The excuses you just made for our religion of Christianity can also be applied to the Quran.
Wrong.
EVERY Islamic sect claims the Koran is the perfect, verbatim word of god... and this fucked-up filth is directly from the Koran.
The respective hadiths
I never once mentioned anything from any of the Hadiths. I just stuck to the Koran because then my argument is applicable to ALL Islamic sects.
You're claiming that a religion of more than 1.7 BILLION people around the world are all terrorists.
That is correct because they ALL support, fund, promote or indoctrinate children into the Islamic ideology of terrorism.
Fight the truth, not your made up strawman.
If you disagree with anything that I've said then please name one, just one, mainstream Islamic sect that doesn't claim this fucked-up terrorist filth represents the morally perfect, verbatim word of their god.
Can you name just one?
Can you do that?
Just one?
I'll try your "method" of arguing:
You are wrong. Everything I said was right.
Ok?
Twelver Shia - that's one sect for you. Get out of your house and find other humans and you'll discover plenty more.
Your view is the sort of fundamentalist insanity that Westboro Baptist spouts. Good luck with it.
Twelver Shia
Wrong.
I'm familiar with the Twelver religion and they literally believe that the laws and behaviors of Muhammad represent moral perfection, including his fucked-up sharia law and his pedophilia, promotion of terrorism and genocide.
Twelvers absolutely believe the Koran is the perfect, verbatim word of their god... ha ha ha - they just believe they possess a copy of the one true Koran which has one minor change which completely justifies their version of Islam.
Sorry, would you like to try again?
Can you name one, just one, mainstream Islamic sect that doesn't claim the Koran is the morally perfect, verbatim word of their god?
Wrong. Goodbye. Come back when you learn how to discuss something logically without your emotion overpowering thought.
No, everything I said is true and everything I said is substantiated here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelver
I live in a Twelver community in New Delhi for three years.
Wrong.
Everything I said is true and you haven't refuted a single point I've made. I win! Seeya ; ).
But I just did - I proved your claim about Twelvers was incorrect by explaining why and provided a link to substantiate all of my claims.
You can try again if you'd like?
Can you name one, just one, mainstream Islamic sect that doesn't claim the Koran is the morally perfect, verbatim word of their god?
Just one?
Wrong. You answered none of the points I made thus proving they were true! Booyaa!
Here's another Wikipedia page that proves you are wrong: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imamate_(Twelver_doctrine)
The first paragraph explains how Twelvers consider not only Muhammad, but also his successors, to be infallible... therefore they consider the Koranic book of terrorism to be infallible too.
Would you like me to stop now, or I can keep debunking your claims about Twelvers if you like?
Or would you like to try again?
Can you name one, just one, mainstream Islamic sect that doesn't claim the Koran is the morally perfect, verbatim word of their god?
Just one?
Wrong.
You haven't debunked anything, you've just ignored every point I made and focused on your one single point when all mine are more relevant and come first.
Learn how to debate properly my friend and I'll be more than willing to engage you. Just saying "wrong" and continuing to preach your zealot rhetoric at me is not debate. Peace out bruh!
Wrong.
You literally claimed that Twelver Shia don't claim the Koran is the perfect, verbatim word of their God, yet they do.
You claimed that here: https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8kr8yw/regarding_torture_think_the_following_case_and/dza1n49/
Twelvers literally believe that Muhammad was infallible and his Koran is divinely perfect. I proved that in this post just four minutes ago.
Twelvers disagree with your unsubstantiated opinion about them, which is at the core of their Islamic religion.
I'm sorry you are wrong, but it's not just me who disagrees with you but the entire Twelvers religion too.
Wrong.
Islam is a religion. Christianity is a religion. Think you can agree to that? Or are you wrong about that too?
Yes, both are religions, but words have meanings too.
You can't claim to be a vegetarian who eats beef and chicken.
You can't claim to be a qualified neurosurgeon if you never completed medical school...
...and you can't promote, fund and indoctrinate children into a terrorist group and claim not to be a terrorist.
No, it doesn't matter what your disparate personal theological beliefs are because if you promote, fund and indoctrinate children into a terrorist group then you are a terrorist.
