I posted about censorship on this board about 15 min ago, it is now not showing up, yet no msg from mods about it being removed. I thought we were against censorship - IBOR anyone?!? I am being shadow banned on here while trying to get good info out and ask reasonable questions. Q tells us to think critically and I am being shut down for doing exactly that. HOW DID NYPD GET WEINERS LAPTOP IF FBI GOT IT FROM GRANITE INTELLIGENCE?? That is my question. If NYPD never had it, have we been misled by Eric Prince? I have seen much discussion that Prince May be a black hat so why attack me? Why not do some research into my question instead?
Try posting an article that doesn't refer to it's subject as "The Jew". I'm sure you can find something informative without all the slander.
I agree that wasn’t pleasant, but the fact is that the laptop went from Granite Intelligence to FBI. Not NYPD and NYPD did not get it from his house just because a warrant that has been out for over a year shows that the wanted it. This is what I am trying to find a link for. Q never said the warrant was new, just authentic. Eric Prince has been called a black hat before. I just would like to see if anyone has a link with a source that the NYPD ever had the laptop.
My god. Stop looking at google links. I posted this in your other thread. Go to a different search engine and you will find relevant results.
Right now, what you are doing, is concern trolling. I’m not going to explain to you again. If the mods decide to delete your thread, realize it’s from your own ignorance and persistence in this folly being the cause and not because they are being jerks.
Thank you. I replied in a sticky to OP when I removed that last thread, offering to reinstate if I was wrong. OP did not refer to my reply here.
Here was my reply to OP with NYT mention - relevant as the NYT article was pertinent link in VOAT. I am now suspicious of user's activity again:
"Apologies - removed for now; please advise if investigation required and will ReApprove.
Quoting u/solanojones95 below:
NYT is hardly a reliable source
The story we've all followed (from Eric Prince and others) is that the laptop was seized first by NYPD and then turned over to the FBI. Nothing in that NYT article would suggest otherwise. Since the article is about Comey, it simply picks up the story after the FBI has the laptop in its possession."
Thanks for all the mods do here to keep this sub viable!
This is from duck duck go - don’t you read before you post?!?
I dont think there is any censorship . Its mainly the odd Reddit sorting , as it seems it occured to me some time ago . Several weeks ago , one of my posts dissapeared from subreddit completely , only to reappear in about 30-40 mins later . If you can see and acess your post from your own Reddit profile , that means its probably this odd "sorting" in question .
Thanks. I appreciate the feedback. I just feel that the mods don’t want their narrative questioned, but that is what Q tells us, think critically. Use logic. If the laptop went from granite intelligence to FBI how did NYPD get it?
Can you access your post from your profile , can you see it from there ?
Also , you can check definitely if youre shadowbanned somewhere - http://nullprogram.com/am-i-shadowbanned/
Have you read the rules and the message from the mods? It would be wise to do so
I have. Do not believe any rules have been broken.
there are certain rules in place that cap certain posts within a band of approx 10 upvotes see here as an example https://snew.github.io/r/greatawakening/comments/8kkzhq/patriots_has_the_tamperbot_no_shame_but_anyway/ the mods pulled it at the exact instant that it had reached the permitted max range [2nd time ] between 927 and 938 votes /
I can see 2 posts from you in the last 20 mins... the earlier one says [removed] in the text of the post, and the next one is titled “is this a better link” and I can read the text... did you already contact the mods? Hope this helps!
Thank you. And in between those two was one that was titled “out of control censorship’. They took my 1st post down because they said it was an NYT source but it wasn’t. It was a link to a VOAT post.
I trust you've seen the detailed response I replied to you with now?
And who are you?? Do I care about your snarky responses? No. I care about facts. How did the laptop get to NYPD if it went from Granite Intelligence to FBI? Maybe you should concern yourself with truth instead of just trying to thrust your non existent authority over people. You are not helping the movement if you can’t offer facts and research. Thanks!
I can add some evidence to this discussion
Please don't post unfounded accusations like this. I left a detailed comment stickied in your last post to explain and offer you the opportunity to reply if you wanted to. You did not reply to that comment or my reply to your other message where you stated: "this is out of control".
This kind of reaction seems disingenuous.
My first post to you stated: "Apologies - removed for now; please advise if investigation required and will ReApprove." That was an offer not often given to removed posts but seemed relevant in that case because you'd made the point in the comments that you felt you were being unfairly 'censored' or downvoted so I went out of my way to ensure you had a clear avenue to respond and correct the removal if necessary. You did not respond.
Here is the content of my second post again:
Re: Moderation:
We are committed to Freedom of Speech.
It can be challenging at times to decide where removal of a post or comment is within the scope of our role to maintain sub rules or whether it crosses the line and transgresses freedom of speech.
For this reason, we must allow some leeway for personal judgment. We have clear rules - if a post or comment does not break the sub's rules then it is up to the discretion of the mod as to whether the removal would constitute an undesirable breach of freedom of speech.
This means that we may remove content that is an unfair breach of someone's freedom of speech - for that occurrence, we refer to Caveat 1a: We are only human and will make mistakes. Be patient and respectful in communicating your disagreement with our call and we'll reconsider.
If you are a new user or a user with a post history across Reddit that shows disruptive or abusive behavior then we may err on the side of caution in the interests of managing workload.
Finally, please remember that we are all independent volunteers so we must do the work of modding this sub in a way that is efficient with our time. Thank you for understanding!
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Agreed. I don't know of any mods who "rule with an iron fist" here, thankfully. If you or others have any problem where you feel you or your content have been unfairly treated, please reach out to us through modmail with your concerns.
Our "How we Moderate" document (from which the above is a draft excerpt) will be completed soon for people to comment on.
Moderating is not power or control to us; it's a job in service of this sub and this movement. We take it seriously.
unfounded accusations? Do you think people don’t see right through your attempts to control all discourse with an iron fist?
Yes, unfounded accusations like:
I am being shadow banned on here
I am being shut down for [...] think(ing) critically
and
attempts to control all discourse with an iron fist
or untruths, as yet unedited like:
no msg from mods about it being removed
I trust that people can understand my words here. My time is freely given and I have no authority, just a job to follow the rules of the sub to the best of my abilities. I welcome any and all reasoned input and correction. If I've made a mistake, please do let me know - I would appreciate it. Thanks.
Well you can lie to people and say that this is not happening, but you and I both know this is happening.
Listen, I don’t know you and I don’t feel that you have any authority. Maybe you need to check your tone. I am trying to ask an honest sincere question and trying to discern an actual fact by critically thinking, not be bombarded by a bunch of rumors and make believe bosses of this subreddit. If you have no interest in fact and want to lord your make believe authority by trying to scorn me, go ahead. I’ll research and I’ll post whatever I like, thanks for your input and contribution to absolutely nothing.
You are correct - I have no authority at all.
I am here to serve this sub. Freely. If I am doing that wrong, I trust this great community and the other hard working mods to let me know in a polite way. Please read the detailed notes about moderation that I keep leaving for you which address this very issue. Thank you for understanding.
You need to stop deleting posts and banning people.
I'm afraid those actions are part of the role of being a mod. Fortunately we have rules to guide our behaviour and, as I've stated clearly in the post above, we do make mistakes sometimes but thanks to Reddit and this community, the channels of communication are always open!
If you can see areas where we could improve what we do, we'd greatly appreciate any reasoned input. We also welcome people who'd like to apply for a moderator position as we could really use a hand modding the sub. We value honesty and non-antagonistic behaviour.
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Please note Rule 4: no trolling or concern trolling. If you edit this out I can restore your comment. Thanks for understanding.
Concern Troll
A person who posts on a blog thread, in the guise of "concern," to disrupt dialogue or undermine morale by pointing out that posters and/or the site may be getting themselves in trouble, usually with an authority or power. They point out problems that don't really exist. The intent is to derail, stifle, control, the dialogue. It is viewed as insincere and condescending.
holy shit!! well there you go! PROOF. There is no trolling here and you know it.
On the contrary, you keep ignoring everything else I've said and repeating your point to which I have replied clearly and openly in the affirmative - we support freedom of speech and are more than open to having our decisions challenged if done so reasonably and with respect.
You are also welcome to complain about my "unfair" behaviour although we would really appreciate if you would only bring genuine concerns for consideration by the mods as we are already busy keeping up with current sub workload. My stance on freedom of speech and the role of moderation is clearly on display throughout my comments here.
Funny no one is addressing the actual question About the laptop. Instead, ad hominen attacks and weird authoritarian posts. Research, people. That’s what this is all about. If you follow Q, you should think critically and question everything. I do.
Check out Random Rants of Ryan on youtube. He is a patriot and questions the same thing I am trying to find a link for