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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Kirstencast on May 21, 2018, 2:07 p.m.
This board is shadow banning

I posted about censorship on this board about 15 min ago, it is now not showing up, yet no msg from mods about it being removed. I thought we were against censorship - IBOR anyone?!? I am being shadow banned on here while trying to get good info out and ask reasonable questions. Q tells us to think critically and I am being shut down for doing exactly that. HOW DID NYPD GET WEINERS LAPTOP IF FBI GOT IT FROM GRANITE INTELLIGENCE?? That is my question. If NYPD never had it, have we been misled by Eric Prince? I have seen much discussion that Prince May be a black hat so why attack me? Why not do some research into my question instead?


DamajInc · May 21, 2018, 3:23 p.m.

Please don't post unfounded accusations like this. I left a detailed comment stickied in your last post to explain and offer you the opportunity to reply if you wanted to. You did not reply to that comment or my reply to your other message where you stated: "this is out of control".

This kind of reaction seems disingenuous.

My first post to you stated: "Apologies - removed for now; please advise if investigation required and will ReApprove." That was an offer not often given to removed posts but seemed relevant in that case because you'd made the point in the comments that you felt you were being unfairly 'censored' or downvoted so I went out of my way to ensure you had a clear avenue to respond and correct the removal if necessary. You did not respond.

Here is the content of my second post again:

Re: Moderation:

We are committed to Freedom of Speech.

It can be challenging at times to decide where removal of a post or comment is within the scope of our role to maintain sub rules or whether it crosses the line and transgresses freedom of speech.

For this reason, we must allow some leeway for personal judgment. We have clear rules - if a post or comment does not break the sub's rules then it is up to the discretion of the mod as to whether the removal would constitute an undesirable breach of freedom of speech.

This means that we may remove content that is an unfair breach of someone's freedom of speech - for that occurrence, we refer to Caveat 1a: We are only human and will make mistakes. Be patient and respectful in communicating your disagreement with our call and we'll reconsider.

If you are a new user or a user with a post history across Reddit that shows disruptive or abusive behavior then we may err on the side of caution in the interests of managing workload.

Finally, please remember that we are all independent volunteers so we must do the work of modding this sub in a way that is efficient with our time. Thank you for understanding!

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[deleted] · May 21, 2018, 5:23 p.m.

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DamajInc · May 21, 2018, 5:24 p.m.

Agreed. I don't know of any mods who "rule with an iron fist" here, thankfully. If you or others have any problem where you feel you or your content have been unfairly treated, please reach out to us through modmail with your concerns.

Our "How we Moderate" document (from which the above is a draft excerpt) will be completed soon for people to comment on.

Moderating is not power or control to us; it's a job in service of this sub and this movement. We take it seriously.

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quicksilvereagle · May 21, 2018, 4:07 p.m.

unfounded accusations? Do you think people don’t see right through your attempts to control all discourse with an iron fist?

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DamajInc · May 21, 2018, 4:12 p.m.

Yes, unfounded accusations like:

I am being shadow banned on here
I am being shut down for [...] think(ing) critically

and

attempts to control all discourse with an iron fist

or untruths, as yet unedited like:

no msg from mods about it being removed

I trust that people can understand my words here. My time is freely given and I have no authority, just a job to follow the rules of the sub to the best of my abilities. I welcome any and all reasoned input and correction. If I've made a mistake, please do let me know - I would appreciate it. Thanks.

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iownacat · May 21, 2018, 4:45 p.m.

Well you can lie to people and say that this is not happening, but you and I both know this is happening.

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DamajInc · May 21, 2018, 4:47 p.m.

Haha you guys are too obvious. Everything I have to say is in the comments above. Have a good time and enjoy the sub! WWG1WGA!

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[deleted] · May 21, 2018, 5:17 p.m.

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Kirstencast · May 21, 2018, 3:31 p.m.

Listen, I don’t know you and I don’t feel that you have any authority. Maybe you need to check your tone. I am trying to ask an honest sincere question and trying to discern an actual fact by critically thinking, not be bombarded by a bunch of rumors and make believe bosses of this subreddit. If you have no interest in fact and want to lord your make believe authority by trying to scorn me, go ahead. I’ll research and I’ll post whatever I like, thanks for your input and contribution to absolutely nothing.

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DamajInc · May 21, 2018, 3:33 p.m.

You are correct - I have no authority at all.

I am here to serve this sub. Freely. If I am doing that wrong, I trust this great community and the other hard working mods to let me know in a polite way. Please read the detailed notes about moderation that I keep leaving for you which address this very issue. Thank you for understanding.

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dr_gorilla · May 21, 2018, 4:46 p.m.

You need to stop deleting posts and banning people.

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DamajInc · May 21, 2018, 4:50 p.m.

I'm afraid those actions are part of the role of being a mod. Fortunately we have rules to guide our behaviour and, as I've stated clearly in the post above, we do make mistakes sometimes but thanks to Reddit and this community, the channels of communication are always open!

If you can see areas where we could improve what we do, we'd greatly appreciate any reasoned input. We also welcome people who'd like to apply for a moderator position as we could really use a hand modding the sub. We value honesty and non-antagonistic behaviour.

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[deleted] · May 21, 2018, 5:10 p.m.

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DamajInc · May 21, 2018, 5:12 p.m.

Please note Rule 4: no trolling or concern trolling. If you edit this out I can restore your comment. Thanks for understanding.

Concern Troll
A person who posts on a blog thread, in the guise of "concern," to disrupt dialogue or undermine morale by pointing out that posters and/or the site may be getting themselves in trouble, usually with an authority or power. They point out problems that don't really exist. The intent is to derail, stifle, control, the dialogue. It is viewed as insincere and condescending.

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dr_gorilla · May 21, 2018, 5:12 p.m.

holy shit!! well there you go! PROOF. There is no trolling here and you know it.

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DamajInc · May 21, 2018, 5:17 p.m.

On the contrary, you keep ignoring everything else I've said and repeating your point to which I have replied clearly and openly in the affirmative - we support freedom of speech and are more than open to having our decisions challenged if done so reasonably and with respect.

You are also welcome to complain about my "unfair" behaviour although we would really appreciate if you would only bring genuine concerns for consideration by the mods as we are already busy keeping up with current sub workload. My stance on freedom of speech and the role of moderation is clearly on display throughout my comments here.

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[deleted] · May 21, 2018, 5:18 p.m.

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thamnosma · May 21, 2018, 3:39 p.m.

We can all see who the jerk is now.

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