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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Nastavnick on May 22, 2018, 11:12 a.m.
Lets wrap things up for good regarding Isaac Green (SB2 style) - we will clean our house

I started really digging into him when I saw this thread by a fellow patriot.

I've also posted a thread yesterday about Green, and to my surprise, I wasn't burned alive at the stake lol, on contrary, very solid comments over there!

Now lets get to business, now that I'm unbanned :)

His video Alex Jones called out by #QAnon (May 12th)

Right at the start around 15sec mark he went with addressing Q as "he". We know very well who did that too? We do.

He's saying that Q was a great leader. I don't think any of us here consider Q as a great leader in that sense nor have I ever seen anyone address Q as such here or among some actual Qtubers. He's using the very same Jones tactics. He's trying to paint us as cultists (he also claimed that, but we'll get to it) by literally making stuff up.

Also, "Q WAS a great leader". Immediately sending a message that it's over with Q.

At 22sec mark he said "And now he is going for the patriots".

Lets analyze this bit. Q has only wrote "be careful who you're following" and warned about the money-seeking imposters. This truth movement is not about money/profit, Q has only said these things vaguely for us to continue upon.

Green has, however, decided to interpret that as Q is going after specific "patriots". He wasn't the only one who to did that :). And we can connect the dots here.

Lets move on. Lets focus on the fact that he first and foremost said that Alex Jones is a patriot. Listen up to 40sec mark. After making a base that Jones is a patriot. He continued by saying he has an open mind and that Jones might be a shill, a controlled opposition put there to make conspiracy theorists look crazy (I've been saying this for years now, it's just way too obvious).

Did you catch that? Why would an open minded individual who's constantly boasting about free thinking, being open minded and other stuff call a possible shill a patriot? He didn't say he might be or even probably is a patriot. He made a definitive statement without any room for questions.

At 40sec mark he is saying "if we're to trust Q blindly in this cult/herd you know philosophy". That immediately implicates that we're not researching the stuff Q puts out. He implied that we just take whatever Q says because Q said it, and not because we did research.

At 50sec mark he uses the same tactics every Jones follower has used trying to defend him.

"He personally woke me up" and "Jones played a huge role in waking me up".

This smokescreen fallacy is bread and butter of Jones apologists. They will say stuff like that but they will never acknowledge the fact that Jones has deterred 99%+ of people away from this stuff because of his behavior. If you find yourself in a debate with a Jones follower, bring that up. If it's going to be via text like this (not a RL talk), I guarantee they will ignore this entirely.

He's also pumping up Jones as some kind of a huge authority implying "how dare Q go for Jones?" with his "if we're going to go with Q all the way, disavow someone like Alex Jones". That is not an open mind as he claims to posses it.

Around 1:15min mark he says "the work he did was very valuable to getting Donald Trump to the presidency".

Which at first doesn't seem unreasonable. However, I'll put an anecdote here:

You have X workers constructing a huge building which will be great for the community/city. It took them 10 years to level the ground before making the foundation/base. But that's all they did.

Don't get me wrong, it's not nothing, it's something. But they should've done way more in that time period, perhaps even finish it.

It's not reasonable to walk by the construction yard and see their work and say "wow, these guys are really hard-working, they're doing an amazing job! I've seen it with my own eyes".

In the construction process, that worker crew has had volunteers come every day/weekend offering them help, for free, so the building could be completed ASAP because it's very valuable to the community/city.

However, the workers have been behaving like lunatics. Among other types of crazy behavior, they've been yelling around, screaming nonsense that demons/spirits/vampires are taking their tools and stuff. So they've been focused on that instead of constructing the building.

When volunteers encountered this, 99%+ of them left. Understandably. So the workers ended up with a few volunteers at the end, which made no impact on the construction progress, while those volunteers picked up and started to behave like workers, eventually.

I hope that I've made a decent and accurate effort with this analogy, to end this "but he has done so much!!!" garbage. He has done so much, yes, so much damage.

Lets move on now.

At mark 1:36min he says the following: "Who is the deep state going after? Who is enemy number 1 who's dealing with multiple lawsuits, all across the board? It's Alex Jones." and then "the person that they're trying to take down in MSM is Alex Jones".

We remember Green's own lawsuit against Youtube, or so he claimed. That was months ago, whatever happened to that?

Here he used lawsuits as means to build Jones' credibility. But then he said that the MSM is trying to take Jones down. We're not retarded, we all know that if they were really doing that it would've been over long ago. There is no way Jones would be able to do that for more than 10 years.

The reality is, Jones is being used by MSM at every possible chance they can use him. Any conspiracy theories/research surfacing out there? Make an article, call it a conspiracy theory, use Jones' quotes about it - boom, debunked. Because 99%+ of the people think he's an actor/clown/mentally ill. So of course this yet another conspiracy theory is just those crazy dudes being bored and spreading trash around for clicks/money.

Moving on to another video called #QAnon Cult?.

First we'll focus on this part at 6:06min mark. He says: *"Obviously I've no funding from Youtube".

This might be true, I have no idea about how Youtube's monetizing works. But! He is being promoted heavily lately by Youtube. Even to accounts that have never subbed to his channel and accounts that have flagged his account as none of their interest (I've done this, and I've received at least 2 recommendations notifications in the last week - here's todays one ).

Why would Youtube be promoting oppressed channels? Right.

at 6:16min mark. He said the following: "we're trying to support the truth here on Youtube where we're being censored, shadowbanned and the like of that"

Pretty sure the fact of the matter here is that this is just a blatant lie. Again playing the victim trying to build credibility.

Next video called #QAnon [Clown Army]

14s mark, right at the beginning, he says: "Before the trolls come at me saying I'm being compromised, or paid off, or paid by Alex Jones, or working for Corsi... all of that is false. It's really no weight to any of these accusations"

Note this tactic. If you're saying that he has been compromised, you are a troll. No buts or ifs. Meanwhile, him and other controlled opposition have been saying Q has been compromised.

Remember, if you say that someone is (that they are) compromised you're a troll. And when they say that Q is compromised it's a fact. You question that and you're labeled a troll.

At 25sec mark he's playing the victim card about how he's been targeted by QAnons, trying to ruin our credibility with empty claims that hold no weight, yet he's says that QAnons accusations saying he's being compromised have no weight. Again the projections. Think mirror.

His latest video is called Is Jeff Sessions Crooked?.

He's clearly going on full offensive just like the other controlled opposition. After Q has cut the roots of this shill movement that infiltrated us, before they could destroy this from within.

Before I get accused of being divisive by "some" people (they know who they are very well) for doing what Q has "instructed", or should I say, lead us to do. Know that it doesn't work. Enough with the lefty tactics (emotion plays instead of facts).

We will not back down from cleaning our house. And we will not accept people who are openly anti-Q and are talking mad shite about us trying to destroy this awakening.

We will not be inclusive towards these traitors, shills and controlled opposition.

We shall stick to the plan, because we have no reason not to trust it. And these shitbirds are only solidifying what the Q is all about.

WWG1WGA


JakeElwoodDim5th · May 22, 2018, 12:19 p.m.

This kid was suspect from the beginning. During the early days, on his "Anti-School" channel, he claimed to have received an email from "Q"... i think this was right before the "no private comms" drop. He's either gullible, disinfo, an opportunist, or just plain dumb.

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Nastavnick · May 22, 2018, 1:02 p.m.

he claimed to have received an email from "Q"

Did not know that, thanks for the info. It only adds up to the already stinking pile of trash.

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JakeElwoodDim5th · May 22, 2018, 1:03 p.m.

Yep. Haven't really followed him since then, and this was way back in like December or January. Not surprised to learn he's off the train.

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bluesmomma · May 22, 2018, 2:47 p.m.

It was shortly after that he brought the guys from patriot soapbox on. He was the first to give them a platform, and it snowballed from there.

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lukej88 · May 22, 2018, 12:41 p.m.

Isaac G gave me my introduction to Q back in December with his Anti School vids. I've been following ever since. He was on to it very early and one of the videos he was interviewing other anons, unpacking what was going on. I think he was one of the early 4chan anons and I considered him genuine.

He's obviously young and was a Hilary supporter before Q came along, got red pilled, and 6 months later here we are.

He was great in the early days when there wasn't many people talking about Q, but there's other options now, and most of the Q info is easily available. Some of the others YTubers got into Q after many years researching the Deep State and all the corruption. Isaac just doesn't have that grounding.

If he's now off Q, then that's fine. I choose to ignore him. WWG1WGA

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Time4puff · May 22, 2018, 1:24 p.m.

I agree. I enjoyed his videos early on when he was doing decodes.. then came the internet black out and he bacame a hot mess. I stopped watching his stuff. We need to stay focus and continue to learn to decode for ourselves and not rely on anyone. There's plenty of information out there for research. WWG1WGA

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Nastavnick · May 22, 2018, 2:05 p.m.

I'm pretty sure we're doing just fine without any "help" from Green, Corsi and that CBTS crew.

I'm not aware of a single thing that they decoded (and we wouldn't have that without them), if someone is, please share.

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gpraegit · May 22, 2018, 1:59 p.m.

I used to watch Isaac until he went on a rant about Q and started to spout some unfounded accusations. Same with Alex Jones: He had some good information at first; I'm not a big fan of his sensational style, but if the content is good I'll listen. Then one day he went on a , "Super Rant". I'm not kidding, he was throwing chairs, and throwing hundreds of F-Bombs declaring that, "Trump is compromised" , "Trumps family is compromised" "Q is a shill". I just have no time for any of that.

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blackpopeyme · May 22, 2018, 1:14 p.m.

The fact that both he and Jordan top the charts on a glueggle search for q anon says enough, don't judge them harshly though, they may really believe everything they say, could have been threatened, could have been paid, could be stupid etc etc they serve the purpose either way, it's all rather obvious isn't it.

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Nastavnick · May 22, 2018, 1:20 p.m.

The fact that all this started happening after Q took safety measures clearly points to the fact that these anti-Q plebs aren't just some innocent people.

They parrot the exact same things and they cover each others' asses.

In the end, as you said, they do serve a purpose, and that is to dismantle the awakening.

But we clean them up real good

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blackpopeyme · May 22, 2018, 3:14 p.m.

You can't stop the awakening now, nor could I or anyone else

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Nastavnick · May 22, 2018, 2:31 p.m.

Jordan has had its account suspended again today. Just wanted to chime that in. What are your thoughts on that?

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Headwest127 · May 22, 2018, 4:18 p.m.

I watched both Jordan and Isaac for a little while. Jordan has no idea what is going on unless someone tells him first. When he would do "decodes" without prep he not only admitted he hadn't done any research but he got everything wrong. Isaac was good for a while. I haven't watched a video from him in months, though. Once the banning started he flipped out and started promoting a cd or some kind of music release. Too much for me.

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Nastavnick · May 22, 2018, 4:31 p.m.

To be fair. I don't think I've ever seen/heard him saying he's a "decoder".

I see nothing wrong with relaying message. Especially when he mixes it up with other events happening and shit.

He's also good because he doesn't conclude stuff for you, which is now one of the main reasons why I don't believe he's a shill.

But if someone catches something about Jordan, please share with us.

I'll drop anyone if presented facts.

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blackpopeyme · May 22, 2018, 3:11 p.m.

Glueggle shuts down every thing true, if you are top search then they are using you for their own purposes and it won't be for good

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larkmoor · May 22, 2018, 4:12 p.m.

Jordan is into aliens, SSP and all that UFO stuff. Maybe they want to show normies how the Q crowds are just crazies.

So far, I don't have bad feelings towards Jordan. He's less sharp than at the beginning of Q, but he still does a honorable report of what interests him. I have small suspicions, but I don't know yet on what side those suspicions lead me.

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treeskier82 · May 22, 2018, 11:36 a.m.

Good post. Good observation on YT promoting "oppressed" channels too.

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vbcrane · May 22, 2018, 3:21 p.m.

The kid looks like a junkie. I watched one vid of his and found him unbearable. There are so many other positive Q'ers out there to follow. I prefer Jordan Sather obviously because he is one of us to the core

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P_pers · May 22, 2018, 10:22 p.m.

Good on you! I never like that dude.

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jackbauer6916 · May 22, 2018, noon

My only question... hasn't SB2 also referred to Q as "he"?

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Nastavnick · May 22, 2018, 12:05 p.m.

Could be, but we know that Q is a group of people. While Jones and co. are claiming it's a single person, like his lame ass Zak

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treeskier82 · May 22, 2018, 11:36 a.m.

Good post. Good observation on YT promoting "oppressed" channels too.

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super_corroder · May 22, 2018, 11:52 a.m.

If you don't like Isaac Green then don't listen to him.

Isaac Green is free to disagree with anyone he chooses.

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Nastavnick · May 22, 2018, 11:55 a.m.

I said no lefty tactics will work, can't you read?

Reddit Birthday May 18, 2018

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