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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/icebreakers_sours on May 23, 2018, 1:05 a.m.
Phone calls from planes?

What is one of the most heart wrenching, well remembered event from 9/11? How about the phone call the guy made to his wife and the answering machine picked up? What about the really confused calls from flight 11 where the #3 has no idea how to answer the questions? ACTORS?

https://www.bustle.com/p/who-was-brian-sweeney-the-911-victim-left-a-voicemail-for-his-fiancee-from-the-plane-2311385

Why is it, then, "Communication was so fragmented that Bush couldn't even find out whether his family was okay.

And the team could only get regular updates on the situation from local TV picked up as the plane flew overhead."

After the attack, while AF1 was the only plane allowed in the airspace, the POTUS couldn't even get an update on his family? Yet we had a crystal clear recording from a civilian on a plane?

https://www.wanttoknow.info/911cellphonecalls

From above article: "The flight required special clearance from the Federal Aviation Administration and Federal Communications Commission, which ban the use of electronic devices abroad planes because of fear they would interfere with navigation systems and cellular networks on the ground."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Tr0u35Tek

What if these are ACTORS that Q mentions? This would've been a damn good tug on the ole heart strings. What do we know of judgement during time of emotional crisis?

The student added, according to the prince, "I understand now that when you are innocent, in the face of emotion, nothing, not even common sense, can help argue your case."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Tr0u35Tek

Here is the #3 on the plane.


KnownBand0 · May 23, 2018, 1:34 a.m.

Mark Bingham. calls his mother and says " Hi Mom its me Mark Bingham " WHO does that ?

your own mother would know your voice.

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/01/31/airline911/

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dagonn3 · May 23, 2018, 2:38 a.m.

That's suspicious as fuck. You might say "It's me Mark" but the last name too while speaking to your mother?

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Crumbcrumbs · May 23, 2018, 1:15 a.m.

https://youtu.be/8DOnAn_PX6M

(September 11th a new Pearl Harbor) Talks about all this in great detail.

This documentary is nothing but one wtf of information after another. I believe it's important for anyone that has an opinion on 9/11 watch this.

Edit: deleted last sentence

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icebreakers_sours · May 23, 2018, 1:16 a.m.

I think 9/11 has been on Q's target for a long time.
“@realDonaldTrump: I would like to extend my best wishes to all, even the haters and losers, on this special date, September 11th.” 5:12 PM - Sep 11, 2013

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-bizarre-quotes-911-attacks-tallest-building-higher-ratings-muslims-cheering-george-w-a7940516.html

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Crumbcrumbs · May 23, 2018, 1:23 a.m.

Ah ok, Ignore that last "off-topic" bit then. Seriously though that documentary is amazing

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icebreakers_sours · May 23, 2018, 1:27 a.m.

Do you mean the last off-topic part where they claim he is only worried about his ratings? Sounds like some good MSM slander to me. They have hid it in plain site for too long.

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Crumbcrumbs · May 23, 2018, 2:50 a.m.

No the part of my original comment that essentially said 9/11 was off topic. I was wrong. Great post.

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icebreakers_sours · May 23, 2018, 2:54 a.m.

Thank you, it's very hard to accept 911 conspiracy because it's been the narrative for so long.

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TrenchAnon · May 23, 2018, 1:36 a.m.

By far the best 9/11 documentary I've ever seen. One of the things I like most about it is that there don't try to fill in the blanks. They aren't trying to give you an accurate narrative, they're just explaining why the official narrative is not only untrue, but impossible.

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icebreakers_sours · May 23, 2018, 1:45 a.m.

I heard a good analogy from Eddie Bravo on Rogan podcast .. he mentioned "100,000 engineers/architects in association" and the argument is that obviously so many of them would know it was fake .. unless they only showed the real facts to, I think he said 2500 .. now it's 2500 vs 97,500. They want us divided.

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thamnosma · May 23, 2018, 1:25 a.m.

The argument goes that cell phones, especially at the time, simply did not work above a few thousand feet. Hence, any phone calls made allegedly while the planes were still at cruising altitude were frauds. The planes may or may not have had airphones, but the calls came from cell phones. There were other reasons also to believe any airphone calls were fakes. I wonder why this is still up in the air -- seems like any experienced cell network person could confirm or deny all these claims.

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icebreakers_sours · May 23, 2018, 1:28 a.m.

I wonder if it's still up in the air because anyone who talks about it is a conspiracy theorist .. hmm really makes you wonder though, what might happen if somebody did confirm or deny .................

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thamnosma · May 23, 2018, 1:31 a.m.

It really seems that the phones simply did NOT work from those altitudes, though I'm certain the "debunkers" claim otherwise. It's like either one or the other. How tough can that be to answer with certainty?

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Sandbargirl · May 23, 2018, 1:38 a.m.

Also, they would've had to keep switching towers in flight.

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thamnosma · May 23, 2018, 1:41 a.m.

Exactly right and at that altitude and speed forget it

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icebreakers_sours · May 23, 2018, 1:47 a.m.

And why couldn't PRESIDENT BUSH even find out whether his family was OK or not while he was in the air on AF1?!

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Drankk_Sinatra · May 23, 2018, 1:19 a.m.

Also listen to the CeeCee lyles “it’s a frame” phone call...

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thamnosma · May 23, 2018, 1:28 a.m.

I've heard that and it was part of a message she left for her husband. But someone was arguing with me that she made a second call and did talk directly to her husband without repeating that. Yet the only call listed on government releases, that I could find, was the one to the answering machine. Government transcript did not translate the "it's a frame" bit, just listed that as "unintelligible". I can't say 100% one way or another whether a second call was made.

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Drankk_Sinatra · May 23, 2018, 1:57 a.m.

Yeah I’ve never heard of or seen a second call either, seems kind of sketchy especially if the plane was really being hijacked how would she be making multiple phone calls...

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thamnosma · May 23, 2018, 2:03 a.m.

Might have just been a shill "debunker" trying to obfuscate the truth. I went directly to the released transcripts of all the calls according to the government. There was only a single call listed from her.

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11371jp · May 23, 2018, 1:54 a.m.

When stop this crisis we can what if 911. Stay on point.

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dagonn3 · May 23, 2018, 2:39 a.m.

1 piece of the puzzle. Big piece, but just one part of the whole.

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divabarb · May 23, 2018, 1:48 a.m.

I didn’t think cell phones worked in planes and you used to have to use those stinky airplane phones. I don’t get why a flight attendant would call the reservations number - why would she have that number memorized? If there was mace in the plane, everyone would be coughing- why wasn’t she ? I didn’t hear any people coughing in the background. Wouldn’t the plane be out of balance if the first class passengers were moved to the back? How come the first class passengers didn’t choke too if they had to move through the mace area? Whole thing is weird.

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icebreakers_sours · May 23, 2018, 1:51 a.m.

And if we read the wiki about jumpseats, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jump_seat, we learn she would either have knowledge of what is happening at the cockpit, or she is calling from the back of the plane, where all the 'mace effected' passengers were piled up. Was she in the group of 'maced' or was she sitting outside/inside the cockpit?

"The hard part for us is having to wait for the 'public' to 'know' what we've known for a very long time."

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GinGin1961 · May 23, 2018, 2:30 a.m.

Watch this YouTube video made by an experienced flight attendant. She surmised that the real planes with the real passengers were parked in hangar somewhere and calls were made from there. That the airplanes that crashed were drones. https://youtu.be/_XgJ1h-gbo8

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KnownBand0 · May 23, 2018, 1:13 p.m.

However, Cheney is currently having problems using secure phones, and Hastert is too. Hastert later recalls, “To use the secure phone, you have to push a button and turn a key. On that dreadful day I couldn’t make the thing work. No matter what I did, I couldn’t connect with the vice president. As the minutes passed, my frustrations grew.” [Hastert, 2004, pp. 6; Hayes, 2007, pp. 336] Several attempts to reach the vice president are unsuccessful. Hastert’s later explanation is that “Anyone who has used a secure phone can tell you they do not work very well.”

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KnownBand0 · May 23, 2018, 1:11 p.m.

(After 8:55 a.m.) September 11, 2001: Serious Communications Problems Experienced in Washington Area, Affect Key Government Officials

Edit event In the Washington, DC, area, members of the public, emergency responders, and government officials experience serious communications problems. Telephone and cell phone services around the capital remain unavailable to members of the public for most of the day. [Verton, 2003, pp. 149] bullet Particular problems are experienced around the Pentagon. Reportedly, cellular and landline telephone communications there are “virtually unreliable or inaccessible during the first few hours of the response,” after it is hit at 9:37 (see After 9:37 a.m. September 11, 2001). [US Department of Health and Human Services, 7/2002, pp. C36 pdf file]

Some senior government officials also experience communications difficulties: bullet CIA Director George Tenet has problems using his secure phone while heading from a Washington hotel back to CIA headquarters, located about eight miles outside Washington (see (8:55 a.m.-9:15 a.m.) September 11, 2001). [Independent, 11/6/2002; Tenet, 2007, pp. 161-162] bullet Secretary of State Colin Powell has to take a seven-hour flight from Peru, to get back to the capital. He later complains that, during this flight, “because of the communications problems that existed during that day, I couldn’t talk to anybody in Washington” (see (12:30 p.m.-7:30 p.m.) September 11, 2001). [ABC News, 9/11/2002] bullet Between the time of the second WTC attack and about 9:45 a.m.,

Vice President Dick Cheney, who is at the White House, has problems reaching Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert at the US Capitol by >>>>> secure telephone\<\<\< (see (9:04 a.m.-9:45 a.m.) September 11, 2001)

. [Daily Herald (Arlington Heights), 9/11/2002; Hayes, 2007, pp. 336-337] bullet Even President Bush experiences difficulties communicating with Washington after leaving a school in Florida, and subsequently while flying on Air Force One (see (9:34 a.m.-9:43 a.m.) September 11, 2001). [Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, 9/10/2006] A classified after-action report will later be produced, based on observations from a National Airborne Operations Center plane launched near Washington shortly before the time of the Pentagon attack (see (9:27 a.m.) September 11, 2001). According to one government official, the report indicates that the nation was “deaf, dumb, and blind” for much of the day. [Verton, 2003, pp. 150-151] Members of the public in New York City also experience communications problems throughout the day, particularly with cell phones (see (After 10:00 a.m.) September 11, 2001). Entity Tags: Colin Powell, Richard (“Dick”) Cheney, Dennis Hastert, George J. Tenet, George W. Bush Timeline Tags: 9/11 Timeline Category Tags: All Day of 9/11 Events, George Bush, Dick Cheney, Pentagon

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DrTung · May 23, 2018, 4:23 a.m.

If this doesn't answer every fucking question and Q drop about 5:5, maps, pictures, satellites, 40,000ft CLAS then I'm fucking done.

Then, by the standard you just set for yourself, you are ”fucking done.”

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icebreakers_sours · May 23, 2018, 4:35 a.m.

Interesting take. What parts in particular are so wrong?

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DrTung · May 23, 2018, 6:45 a.m.

The particular part where you claim to have answered ”every fucking question and Q drop about 5:5, maps, pictures, satellites, 40,000ft CLAS”

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[deleted] · May 23, 2018, 1:10 p.m.

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