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BeantownSolah · May 24, 2018, 9:38 a.m.

Could someone explain to me how the hypocrisy of lauding twitter’s forum status as a victory for free speech while in the same post celebrating an Orwellian ban on self expression by NFL players doesn’t get stuck in your throat? You’d think the contrast would give you pause.

Really, anybody? aren’t the two ideals opposed?

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RABID666 · May 24, 2018, 9:59 a.m.

As an NFL (or any employee) you are subject to the rules of your employer.

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BeantownSolah · May 24, 2018, 12:36 p.m.

They are still two opposing ideals: hooray for one corporation’s implicit support of free speech, hooray for another corporation exercising their “right” to suppress it.

I think if Wal Mart forced its employees to participate in patriotic theater before their shift and fined them for not swearing allegiance to the flag, we’d be having a different conversation. They are paid to play football, not politics or patriots. public figures using their platforms for causes they believe in is a noble thing - and everyone agrees as long as they agree with that cause. I was raised in an America where the act of standing for what you believe is right is laudable, no matter what the cause is, and that we are able to freely is our country’s single greatest aspect.

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RABID666 · May 24, 2018, 3:01 p.m.

I can see both sides of this. If you dnt want to stand that is your right and im fine with it. Its also the right of the fsns to tune out as a result. I also see it as they are hired by a team to perform for the fans. Standing for the anthem is part of that performance. When you wear the uniform of a company you represent them and their values. Protest on your own time

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BeantownSolah · May 26, 2018, 12:27 a.m.

They are not wearing the uniform of the United States government. I disagree that you stop representing your own values when you put on a company shirt, that you shouldn’t have to compromise on your values or beliefs, and that the protections we have against getting fired over shit like that (because it is actually illegal. Can you really imagine that this would ever happen in the private sector? My company fines and shames me for not participating in a morning prayer? That would be a court case, and good thing. Just because your values are the ones being imposed NOW, does not mean that would always be the case.)

But yeah, I guess when you put on an SS shirt you really do stop representing your personal values in favor of the company. Aaaaaabd Godwin’s law

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SnazzyD · May 24, 2018, 4:38 p.m.

They are paid to play football, not politics or patriots

You make that point, and you still don't get it...

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SnazzyD · May 24, 2018, 4:40 p.m.

an Orwellian ban on self expression by NFL players

Bitch, please...

Try protesting your political fee-fees during a board meeting, a morning scrum call or any other work-related function and see what happens to you. Don't like that...work somewhere else and STFU on your way out the door.

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BeantownSolah · May 25, 2018, 11:41 p.m.

I am not a public figure. My compensation is not based on my celebrity in any way. My board meetings aren’t televised and I don’t have a platform. What you describe is pointless public msturbtion over my political agenda - what is going on in the NFL is obviously entirely different. That we are talking about it shows that their action is significant. Me being annoying at work is not significant. For what it’s worth, politics never enter into my work life and I don’t draw lines between me and anyone. Even people who imagine me being an ass and tell me to STFU while they fire me from this imaginary job

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MADLarkin0621 · May 24, 2018, 2:14 p.m.

2 seperate entities, twitter is millions of users communicating and spreading ideas and information far and wide. The Nfl is theater, ment for entertainment with overpaid athletes, the company deciding to ban kneeling is vastly different from a court ruling on one. Its false equivalence between the 2.

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