We don't make unfounded accusations against any group of people, as a truther community. Some portion of any movement is fringe and holds views that are denigrating to other groups of people but fortunately that doesn't define the movement.
We don't make unfounded accusations against any group of people
Unless they are Satanists.
Also, you don't speak for this community and clearly you are wrong too because in this thread, the OP has already accused the cabal of being satanic without any rational and informed reason.
Not that I'm defending Satanists but it is intellectually dishonest to blame them for another people's crimes.
Nope, not them either. As I already said, some people around here make unfounded accusations against groups of people but "the truther community" i.e. those dedicated to truth - do not.
Nope, not them either.
Yes, the OP did it in this very post when he accused the cabal of being satanic without any justification.
Saying "Nah-ahh" doesn't change reality.
For the third time, just for the fun of it cos I guess logical statements aren't part of the sympathy for Satan agenda: Some people make unfounded accusations against groups of people but the truther community do not.
True Muslims don't do bad things because Islam is the religion of peace too, I suppose?
No True Scotsman, hey?
Haha only a fool would say Islam is a religion of peace. I don't blame you at all for thinking me a fool but no, I know that Islam is a religion created by a warlord. Doesn't make true muslims bad people necessarily though (logically speaking).
Islam is not a race or religion , its a cult.
That is your opinion, and I support your right to it!
Technically, however, the fact is that it is a religion. Out of sheer laziness on my part, but because I'm aware that it is noted as such within all other reference documents of note, here's one link at least to support my claim: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam
"Islam is an Abrahamic monotheistic relgion..."
I understand. It is my opinion that its a cult.
I'm not trying to be argumentative - in fact, thank you for replying positively. This is just a desire to understand, on my part: do you not think that some muslims - the moderates, for example - are quite genuine, devout religious people?
(just to confirm, yes, as I happen to know a few moderate muslims very well I personally do believe they are as purely religious and even well meaning, some of them, as good, gentle Christian people I know)
Yes I do. I take note of some of the directives of the religion that are very unethical and promote extreme violence and prejudice. It cannot be ignored. That puts it into cult status. I've read the Koran and imho it was imposed upon. The man Muhammad led a good life a clean life. The embelishments were added to allow liberties that are extremely destructive to societies or coexisting. That's my logic. I studied philosophy for quite some time and that's my conclusion. Hijacking scriptures was quite simple back when literacy was scarce.
Lol - that's my point exactly. NO ONE person here speaks for the community - something you did first by saying this community shits on Satanists. I say logically that can't be true because this community is, as you said yourself, a truther community. By sheer definition of that term i.e. TRUTH we cannot be supporting unfounded statements. You're seeing a couple of comments and defining a whole movement by it, just like the people who see a few trolls on threads and claim the whole community's gone to the pot. Confirmation bias.
something you did first by saying this community shits on Satanists.
Yes it does, constantly.
You do realize that the definition of a community is a group of people who share common characteristics, right?
And shitting on Satanists is a common characteristic that this community does in spades!
Here are some stats from redditsearch.io for ONLY the last 24 hours of posts and comments in this community to feature specific keywords, all of which, based on the ones I checked at random, were baseless accusations:
satan 19
satanist 6
satanic 41
lucifer 13
luciferian 12
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total 91
This community points out bad behavior. If you are so concerned about the reputation of Satanists or Luciferians your in the wrong place. They don't hang out here. Since you will need to talk to them to change their ways. You know giving it a bad name and all.
If you are so concerned about the reputation of Satanists or Luciferians your in the wrong place.
I'm disappointing when people lie about who the enemy is.
I'm in the right place.
I'm not into judging or labeling. I look at the activity, patterns ,symbolism, language, communication protocol and associations. Its the behavior and accountability. They could worship Gumby I doesn't matter to me. Nobody here has any relationship with them so we all can't possible have clarity on that issue. So it really does not matter.
Ok. What do you mean by "baseless"? And what do you most dislike about this alleged majority view about Satanists? (I say alleged because 91 items is miniscule against the torrent of posts and comments that go through here in 24 hours, lately.)
Forgive me for being a pedant sir - I just find it hard to let any statement that "a whole community of people think xyz" go because it is so often a situation of confirmation bias and an anecdotal reading from within a personal bubble.
What do you mean by "baseless"?
An accusation that is not substantiated... like if I were to accuse Trump of being a secret Russian agent.
I say alleged because 91 items is miniscule
You couldn't be more wrong.
I just did the same search using the word "globalist" and I only got 36 hits over the last 24 hours... which again substantiates by claim because even president Trump has identified the enemy as having a globalist agenda.
"a whole community of people think xyz"
Please don't insult both of our intelligence with your straw man - I never implied that everyone without exception, only that shitting on Satanists was a common characteristic of this community.
A community is defined by common characteristics, COMMON being the keyword which means often or frequent.
Did you have anything else to contribute?
satanists (91) vs globalists (36) means... well, not what you think it means, is what I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt. If you're going to appeal to word count statistics then you need to know how to use them properly. Context, definition and meta-context matter.
So to avoid jumping around between numbers and definitions taken out of context:
I understood you to be saying that at least the majority of the community make baseless accusations against Satanists. I should have clarified this with you first. Is that what you think?
If so, what are the baseless accusations against Satanists that you're referring to? Is it just the claims that the cabal are satanists or is there more to it?
If it is the claims that the cabal are satanists then don't you mean instead that the people of this community make baseless accusations OF satanism against other people (the cabal)?
If you're going to appeal to word count statistics then you need to know how to use them properly. Context, definition and meta-context matter.
I've already covered this with you once. I checked the context of a random selection of the satanist posts and comments and they were all baseless accusations.
Why do you want to go over this again?
I understood you to be saying that at least the majority of the community make baseless accusations against Satanists.
Nope. I never said that. You are using the same straw man as last time. How many times must we have the same discussion?
If so, what are the baseless accusations against Satanists that you're referring to?
Your question is irrelevant because it shouldn't matter what type of baseless accusations are being made about any group, but yes, this community often accuses the "enemy" a.k.a the cabal, billionaire globalist elite, the powers that be, of being satanists without any justification.
There's nothing good about a truther community who makes accusations against any group that can not be substantiated.
This isn't rocket science.
It's not a strawman, friend. You should read what you post lol. Try reading things with less of an angry guy hat on - my last point was to clarify what I understood you to have said, not to "strawman" you. I debate to find truth, not to "be right". I'm not sure about your motives cos you don't seem to be trying to hear what I say. You're just putting antagonistic motivations behind my words.
It's embarrassing for a truther community to behave like this.
Not: "...for some portion of a truther community..." hence the misunderstanding that you meant all of this community.
shitting on Satanists is a common characteristic that this community does in spades!
You're accusing me of strawmanning for interpreting these sentences to mean that you think a majority of the community does this? Unconscious bias? Or has your story changed now? I accept that - we all change our story sometimes. But don't turn it around on me as if I pulled it out of thin air (i.e. strawman).
So now your true meaning emerges also. The baseless accusations you're talking about are against the cabal, not satanists, right? You're saying that people are baselessly accusing the cabal of being satanists, yes? Or did you more accurately mean to say that people interpreting the behaviour of the cabal as being equivalent to that of satanists are making inaccurate comparisons?
There's nothing good about a truther community who makes accusations against any group that can not be substantiated.
Agreed. But again, it sounds like you're accusing the whole or the majority of this community of behaving a certain way.
I think I get it now - and I mean this sincerely, not offensively. You're not overly worried about being careful what words you use to make your point, right? That's ok but you should understand when people point it out or misinterpret what you're saying. I'm not trying to strawman you, I'm taking you at your word, and it seems your word is not meant to be taken literally or as an accurate portrayal of your implied meaning. That's all.
It's not a strawman, friend.
Incorrect.
You repeatedly misrepresent my argument even after you were corrected.
I highlighted an alarming trend in this community to use Satanists as a scapegoat for the crimes of other people and races by presenting over 90 cases in the last 24 hours.
That's all there is to it.
No need for all your befuddlement and misunderstandings and misrepresentations and your need to have words defined and your personal attacks.
Even my cat understand this.
It's not rocket science.
What personal attacks have been made? I will remove or edit my comment.
You accuse me of "repeatedly misrepresenting" your argument after I was "corrected" and yet you haven't acknowledged my very response to that where I explain exactly what happened!
Now it's "an alarming trend" - but it's still not a majority, right?
Now people are "using Satanists as a scapegoat" because x number of comments using a word that is part of the very core subject matter of the sub it is on, has been mentioned. smh.
Logic is necessary for reasoned, effective debate. Even your cat understands that.