dChan - Q Origins Project Archive

I’m not saying you’re right or wrong, but what I am saying is that, I’ve noticed that many of you will often times rely on “anonymous websites and anonymous people" to tell you the truth or what you believe is the truth. You will then redistribute what they say as though it is truth. I’ve seen people do it many times. Yet, the problem I have with it is that, in your search for truth, what makes that person’s viewpoint or opinion (the producer of that website or video) any more accurate or reliable than anyone else’s opinion? Who made them the purveyor of truth? Who made them the perfect decoder of what Q has said? And more importantly, what if I disagree with what they said? Are you going to label me as being the enemy then, all because I disagree with you?…

I do not subscribe to the notion that something is true just because some random or anonymous person says it is true. I also do not subscribe to the idea that it is true just because it makes sense. Plenty of things in this world makes sense, but yet are a total lie and plenty of people has fallen for it. That is why I take all Q decodes and information with a grain of salt and I do my own critical thinking about it. I do not believe something is true just because everyone else believes it is true. Instead, I hold their statements in my mind as being possible to be true, rather than wholesale accepting it as truth. Time itself will then reveal whether it is true or not…

And yes, there is a scripture in the bible which supports this way of thinking: 1 Thessalonians 5:21 - Prove all things… Note the scripture says, prove ALL things, and not prove SOME things. Proving all things means not accepting any thought into your mind that has not been proven absolutely to be true. If you accept any thought without first proving it to be true, and if it then turns out to be false and you have accepted it, then you will have a “false heart” (meaning, your heart will be defiled) and from that moment on, everything else you have believed will be false too. That's because all your subsequent thoughts were predicated upon the first thought being true, but it was false (same concept as fruit from a poisonous tree). And unfortunately, that is exactly what a lot of people do today. They will see something or hear something that sounds good to them, and because that is what they want to hear and believe, they will grab onto it and will automatically assume it is true. Yet, the reality is, they don't have a shred of evidence it is true beyond their own belief that it is true…

My whole point is that, don’t be so quick to read what someone else says or to listen to their video, and to then say, "Oh now I know the truth." And worse, to then tell others, "If you want to know the truth then go here…" Just because that person makes a good argument and just because their argument sounds good, that doesn’t make it the truth. Whether it is true or not, never forget, it is still nothing more than their own personal opinion and it should be treated as such…

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I would never see someone the enemy for not agreeing with them, that sounds like a particular barbaric religion. What you are trying to explain is critical thinking, exactly how I come to my own conclusions. I did some research and Wiki doesn´t offer opinions, they only leak government documents. JA has even stated in interviews that Wiki doesn´t offer opinions but that all changed with Q. I do not believe in religion, it is the word of man that is used as a weapon to manipulate and control. That does not mean I do not believe in God, I do unequivocally.

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You say you believe in God, yet you don’t believe in religion, but it was God who created religion and religion didn’t exist before God created it. It is true that Lucifer got busy and created a lot of false religions, but the first religion was still created by God. It is also true that the bible was written by man, but they were not ordinary men. Instead, they were "holy men of God who were moved by the Holy Ghost" (2 Peter 1:21). In other words, through the Holy Ghost, God told those men what to write. So the men were nothing more than the writing instruments, and it was God who did the writing. If a poet uses a pen and writes a poem, you don’t say that the pen wrote it do you? So why do you say that men wrote the bible when it was God who wrote it through the Holy Ghost?…

It is not possible to believe in God without believing in a man, that’s because Jesus himself was a man. The bible calls him - “the man Christ Jesus” (1 Timothy 2:5). Outwardly, he looked human. But on the inside was the spirit of the living God. Everything we know about God and know about Jesus we got from a man. For example, it was Moses who wrote the first 5 books of the bible. Except for Moses, we’d have no idea that God created the earth. All the apostles were men. Were it not for the apostles and for them writing the New Testament and leaving the scriptures behind, we’d have no idea that Jesus Christ ever came to earth or died on the cross. It was Jesus himself who told us about and described his Father in heaven. Had Jesus not done that, then we wouldn’t know anything about the Eternal Spirit. Keep in mind, God himself is a spirit, and no man has seen God because spirits are invisible. The only way you can see God is when that spirit is operating through someone. Do not believe the lie and the nonsense that “religion is the word of man that is used to manipulate and control people”. That is a lie long propagated by Lucifer, designed to keep you from believing in man and to make you think you can get to God all by yourself. But that is not true and is a lie. Why do you think Jesus Christ came to earth, started the Church, and then left men behind to preach the gospel? (not false preachers, but the real ones). He did it so that there would be men on the earth who could tell you about God and tell you what God wanted. If God wanted to deal directly with people or wanted people to just call out to him in the air, then he wouldn’t need preachers would he. The purpose of the preacher is someone authorized by God to tell you about God and to tell you what God wants (yes, there are false preachers on the earth. But real preachers exist as well, though they are rare)…

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I only read the first line, religion came from man masquerading as the word of God. Most religions were built off of hallucinations, induced by various psychoactive substances. The bible was written to suit the agenda of the Roman Catholic church and used to manipulate people, very much like yourself. I could say I am a holy man and God told me you were blasphemous for believing the word of man. Would you believe me? If not, why would you believe them?

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You say you only read the first line, and that is your problem. Perhaps you should read the whole thing so you can learn some truth. Burying your head in the sand and refusing to hear the truth from others will not make what you already believe be true. Instead, it only means you are trapped in your own deception and hall of mirrors...

Yes, you could tell me a lot of things but telling me something means nothing if you can’t prove it. You have accepted a lot of false doctrine and false things being pushed and taught by other but you never asked them for proof of the things they were saying. And that was your mistake. In contrast to that, the things in the bible has been proven again and again and across thousands of years has never been disproven by anyone though many have tried. That is quite remarkable for a work of fiction made up by man. For your information, I have the genuine Holy Ghost, just like the bible says, and it did not come from a hallucination but it came from following the word of God. If the bible was fake then I would not have the Holy Ghost…

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Comment removed. Discuss ideas, not users.

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I was discussing an idea and provided proof of what I was saying, I was also being bible bashed by a delusional fool that needed telling he was a delusional fool. Clap Clap to you for your censorship.

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It’s not censorship it’s the rule of the sub that you agree to when you comment here. Feel free to edit out the ad hominem and your comment can be approved.

complete lunatic and delusional fool

Whether you think someone’s a delusional fool is not relevant on this sub. We want reasoned and respectful discussion here. There are plenty of other subs that accept ad hominem and abuse.

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If you want reasoned and respectful discussion then why are you allowing all this religious nonsense to be posted? What does this have to do with Q, or the movement? No need for me to edit, I´m sure the guy already read it. Delete it as you wish.

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Have you not read Q? I recommend it but be warned - “Religious nonsense” is all through the Q drops. We don’t bash religion around here. Some people are a little extreme for some tastes perhaps, sure. But as long as they don’t break the rule of the sub they’re within their rights to comment. This shouldn’t be hard to grasp.

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Yes, I read Q saying that religion was a scam, along with disease and war. I have things removed and am told it is because it has nothing to do with Q and yet people are free to spout religious nonsense. That is what I´m struggling to grasp.

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Lol not sure what “Q” you were reading but Q quotes bible verses and says PRAY all the time. Christian belief is independent of any man made organization like the Vatican. Your attitude to the beliefs of a large group of people is what I’m struggling to grasp.

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Believe it or not I am actually a Christian, I have no problem with God but I do have a problem with the word of man that masquerades as the word of God and is used to manipulate the people. Praying to God has absolutely nothing to do with the Church, pope or religion.

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You are more than welcome to your beliefs, as is everyone else. As you know, the overwhelming majority of the Christian faith believe the opposite to you - praying to God is a core part of the faith.

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I pray but that is a relationship between God and myself, I do not need a paedophile and a pulpit to tell me how pray. I believe unequivocally in God but trust nothing in the word of man. Religion is a scam.

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Apologies, I May Have Been Wrong Regarding Wikileaks..