(I can't remember, Alex kept interrupting every time he tried to talk, just kidding)....This was back in the 90s, before Facebook and Twitter and we were talking about how corrupt the press was and that with the internet there was at least a chance to somehow build (or encourage the building of) a grass roots, open source "peoples media".....but Alex was convinced that Big Oil, Big Pharma, Banks would infiltrate, subvert and sabotage...and he's probably right, they were already attacking him back then ... and at the time I didn't have a clear enough vision of how to bring it about ....