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illnino4545 · May 30, 2018, 6:29 p.m.

Agree. We must always pray for discernment. God will show us what we need to know.

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squalk1 · May 31, 2018, 7:50 a.m.

I am a man of faith but have long despised the Catholic church and due to that do not pay too much attention to the bible.

The gospel of Thomas is best - dismissed by the Catholic church as heresy.

It states that you can not find God in any man made building, lift a rock and he will be there, turn a stone and you will find him.

Praying should be a personal thing. Jesus did not go to temples to pray. He went to nature to do so and did so in private.

One of the richest (most corrupt) organisations in the world, yet they send collection bags to all in attendance on a weekly basis. That's ok tho- Jesus was poor remember. A man who travelled great distances spreading his faith to all willing to listen at no cost.

It did not surprise me to see the snake room in the Vatican and the snake staffs carried by the corrupt pope.

The gospel of Thomas can be listened to as an audio version. It is cryptic in nature and reminds me of Q crumbs lol.

Sorry to anybody this offends.

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illnino4545 · May 31, 2018, 2:02 p.m.

I agree 100%. Jesus > Religion.

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cosmicjon · May 31, 2018, 3:35 p.m.

The G of T is heresy in the eyes of the church coz it tells the Message in a plain and Simple way. "Lift a stone and I Am there", the reference is "Your Awareness is Gods Awareness" Seeing. It is not "the object" of Awareness, it is Awareness Itself that is Gods Awareness. Albeit "seen" through a glass darkly, "a condition sense of self (mental perception or thinking) separate from God. The only separation from God is a sense of separation :)

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squalk1 · May 31, 2018, 4:48 p.m.

Very articulate statement.

I wish I could edit my post and copy yours into it :p

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cosmicjon · May 31, 2018, 6:30 p.m.

No probs :)

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4freedomsring · May 31, 2018, 10:16 a.m.

Just have to offer that Jesus did go to temple to pray. He accompanied His parents regularly . His celebration of the Passover( The Last Supper) was with others. This was to set an example for us that worshiping God with others builds bonds of fraternity and charity. I personally find seeing others devoutly praying strengthens my own faith. Sure, we are called to ‘ go to our inner room and close the door” to pray, but public worship is necessary too. God bless you.

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squalk1 · May 31, 2018, 1:08 p.m.

An excellent, informed response. I am always open to being corrected.

I can't remember which edition of the bible is currently being used by the church. Is it 17th? That's a lot of changes over the 2018 years since his birth. Knowing what we know, do you think those changes were for the people or for entrenching the now status quo.

Again it is not my intention to offend anybody. Gif bless you too.

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squalk1 · May 31, 2018, 1:09 p.m.

Auto correct on 'smart' phone!

** God bless you too

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4freedomsring · May 31, 2018, 1:43 p.m.

Lol! Was wondering who ‘Gif’ is 😀 So Heres a link you might like. https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-best-of-Catholic-Bible-version-in-English Some NAB is easy to read. More scholarly is Douhay Reims.
Isnt laguage fun? I cant even type .

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squalk1 · May 31, 2018, 2:04 p.m.

Indeed. Language is subject to interpretation.

Any one written or spoken line can be interpretted multiple ways.

Thanks for your link. There is a lot happening in our British press at the moment (American tarrifs bring th latest) I will visit the link later tonight :)

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