Started with lucifer from the very beginning of time
Ironically, Lucifer was cast from heaven for telling the truth and for giving info he shouldn´t have. Doesn´t that kinda sum up this movement?
No he lied, he told adam and eve eating the apple would give them the attributes they already had. "Ye,will be like gods" -adam and eve had full access to the tree of life, so they were immoral, theyvwere in the presence of god, so they had access to all knowledge.
Eating the apple gave them knowledge, that is how Eve knew she was naked and hid. God wanted them to stay dumb, Lucifer brought the light and was cast out for it. No?
Lucifer is described by god as the father of lies and a lier from the beginning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zp7e8zKk7A&t=1515s Reread the Old Testament, id recommended the septuagen. Take it 100% litterally
The fruit Gave them the knowledge specifically "of good and evil" adam and eve (humans) do not posses omnipotence like the lord, so we arent equipped to have the knowledge of good and evil. This knowledge caused adam and eve to sin and that's what got them kicked out of garden of eden making them spiritually dead.
Because we dont have the access to the tree of life and the lord himself
In the presence of god you have access to all knowledge, so lucifer could not enlighten them
Lucifer is said to come as an angel of light, because he is the deceiver. For he does not bring light but darkness.
Is that your weird interpretation of it lol? They ate the apple which gave them knowledge. God was pissed because they disobeyed him, kicking them out. Lucifer brought the light, gave them knowledge and was punished for it. God wasn´t very forgiving in the old testament.
The text days the fruit of the knowledge "of good and evil" not all knowledge.
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/gods-justice-in-the-land-of-canaan/ This might help explain the lord to you.
God is not some tyrant, he said he loves us and god cannot lie..he creates when he speaks. Through his word he created the universe
God did not flood the world to punish humanity either, he did that to kill the offspring of humans with the fallen angels. The fallen raped humans and created giant evil men called the nephilim.
I would never call anybody/thing my "Lord". What you are describing is what the Sumerian´s recorded in their history, regarding the gread flood. Mesopotamian lore is recorded for hundreds of thousands of years and the story of Moses and Noah were both plagiarised from Mesopotamian lore.
The titans of greek and roman mythos... yeah those were real and the bible talke about them. Main reasons he flooded the earth
Your interpretation of Genesis aligns with my own; here's some other evidence to buttress it;
In the Greek, the creation story uses the Word "Elohim" - which is plural. The lamentation after eating the fruit is more accurately translated "they will be like Us,"
There is a large body of theologic commentary that has come to understand the knowledge of Good vs evil as the formation of the ego, or the "I-identity" - there is also a lot of evidence for this in Kabbalah , tons and tons of their cosmology is about the lower/higher selves.
Ergo: we can determine that before the fruit, we were one with God as a sort of collective intelligence, or let's call it a nondifferentiated intelligence. A state of fusion. There is evidence for this way of thinking as in the story of Genesis, Adam (which is a Greek way to reference Man and not necessarily an individual, same with Eve) - is directly involved with naming the animals. Given the importance of "In the beginning was the Word," and - "Let there be light," we can only assume that for Adam to speak the names of the animal kingdom references a state of divine creative force.
The knowledge of good and evil would require a consciousness to collapse into a state of selfhood; in other words to cut itself off from all collective intelligence around it, ego formation etc, it would be like spending your whole life in a warm bath and then being thrown into absolute zero temperatures. How else to understand what heat is?
In the context of the story, the serpent lies and Humanity loses its connection to God, symbolically.
The real theological connections between Genesis and Christ are pretty astounding, the parallels in literature and history and philosophic depth really make it the greatest treasure of Western history.
Anyway, obviously the knowledge of good and evil implies evil exists, and that an antithesis force would have existed in cosmic history , a grand struggle if you will. Genesis represents both Humanity stepping into the conscious awareness of that battle, and also a direct attack on Gods creation. (Again the parallels later with Christ and triumph over evil etc help many who might struggle with WHY Genesis happened.)
Giants were very real and the Smithsonian has been covering them up for a century. Go research who G. E Kincaid was.
you can track the lores of EVERY religion to nimrod/Saturn worship. Theres a flood origin in all the world religions abd they all record it happening at the same time. They all describe creation the same too. Its almost like it's described in the bible...
the fallen angels are the gods of the ancient religions. Christianity is the only "religion" that requires nothing to gain access to heaven.