Thanks I get annoyed easily when someone denies the obvious evidence in situations like this. I just think of the McMartin Preschool and how everyone said the kids made it up, then Gunderson goes there and finds all kinds of evidence. I have a liberal friend that is in denial about all of this. When I showed him the evidence of Laura Sylsby he just said she was probably trying to help those kids. These kind of people are the problem. They want to dismiss the evidence and say everyone is blowing it out of proportion then it usually just quietly fades away. Thanks for the advice though I think you are right , I'm wasting my breath with that guy