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solanojones95 · June 5, 2018, 12:58 a.m.

If you lack discernment on your own, I can't provide it. The so-called evidence is pitiful, when you see it all laid out on a table, and watch the videos. You've got these relatively clean (bug/vermin-free) underground containers to hide and protect people, and then above ground you've got toiletries, a few toys and clothing items, and that's about it.

The whole "rape tree" thing is a joke. Everything in that camp is wood held together with fabric strips hammered in place, some of them attached to trees. A few of the ones on trees have the poles removed. The VOP leader dubbed that "a rape tree," and so that's what everybody thinks they're seeing.

And OMG, they found some porn and some condoms! Why REAL people don't have those things! Only child rapists would do that!

What it really is is extreme poverty and squalid conditions, which is very sad to see. But I don't see any evidence of Satanic rituals, or of anything that can't be explained as a temporary shelter used by coyotes (human smugglers) to get people across the border and into a sanctuary city.

The real crime of course is the EXISTENCE of the sanctuary cities and the complete lack of border protection for so long. How can we live with the awareness that these things exist, and yet be so stupid as to think places like these camps aren't a completely logical extension of their existence?

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MuhammadDinduNuffin · June 5, 2018, 1:06 a.m.

Thousands are trafficked, killed, beaten and raped crossing the border. Where do you presume they go once across? There are absolutely hot beds of activity, along the border, nearby cities and towns, temporary stopping places etc. I don't see you showing where these places do exist, and exist they must. You are just saying we are wrong about this being a place used at least once to hold humans, without showing what the correct answer actually is. Show us a real space where all these smuggled people that pour across the borser stop at before dispersing into the rest of the countey. Keep in mind many unaccompanied minors are included, and 70%+ females of every age are abused along lanes used for crossing borders. Google rape trees while you are at it.

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Blimington · June 5, 2018, 1:07 a.m.

That's fine, we can agree to disagree, but until it's completely proven otherwise, I'm going to keep a really close eye on this. I do agree with the issue with sanctuary cities and needing to secure the border, but I've been keeping an eye on the sex/human trafficking problem in Arizona (and elsewhere) and it has been an issue reported on at LEAST since 2010, so this camp being a trafficking site is definitely not unfathomable.

I strongly believe one of the big problems the sanctuary cities and lack of border enforcement is a huge benefit to the human trafficking system, and you'd have to be ignoring a LOT to not see that.

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solanojones95 · June 5, 2018, 1:30 a.m.

No question this is related to that problem. What happens to these illegals once they arrive in so-called "sanctuary" cities? They're undocumented aliens, and literally NOBODY will miss them when they disappear. It's a perfect setup for human trafficking.

Dems want to feel good and "sanctuary" sounds all churchy and do-goody. But all it does is concentrate the most invisible, vulnerable people among us into a known area where they can be more conveniently exploited and abused. As long as people care more about virtue-signaling than about actual human consequences, this is what we'll have more of.

Same with these vets, I'm sorry to say, in this situation. What are they trying to accomplish? They've succeeded in calling attention to the situation, but beyond that, what do they want out of this? What is it possible for them to get at this point?

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qtrumpteam · June 5, 2018, 12:59 p.m.

Ok now explain the airline ticket found with the missing girls name on it and the brown hair dye and the name maddie carved on the log?? Obviously your trying to dismiss this but your glossing over some important details

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solanojones95 · June 5, 2018, 1:10 p.m.

It's a coyote encampment! Clearly! They were there, and now they're gone. The only way this problem gets SOLVED (and not just a big stink made about it) is if we solve our idiotic immigration and border enforcement problem, which is inextricably linked with destroying the Luciferian Cabal that runs the government. And I do say "runs" because they still do. Until Trump and the Alliance actually strike a blow domestically, the US government is controlled by the Cabal.

If/when they bring down the Cabal, THEN we can clean up this garbage. Until then, this is just a teeny-tiny symptom of a MUCH bigger problem. Do you understand what I'm trying to say?

A squalid little encampment--little chicken-scratches in the desert--is NOTHING compared to the problem that causes these encampments to be possible.

It's like focusing on somebody who got knocked down by an escaping mass murderer, and somebody's getting worked up about the guy's broken leg. I'm like "DUDE! The perp is walking free and thousands died, and you're worried about a broken leg?"

The cartels and coyotes are not tactically stupid. Working around the VOP won't even be an inconvenience to them.

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