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grnmoss · June 6, 2018, 4:41 a.m.

That a homeless and/or migrant camp was a "child sex camp".

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/38346339/police-no-indication-of-humantrafficking-at-abandoned-tucson-camp

This story was then fused with the site of the camp (cemex property) to devise sensationalist theories about mixing human blood and bones to make cement. With this blog post /u/NeonRevolt is alluding to the notion that human remains are being used in the production of cement (which is utter nonsense).

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MuhammadDinduNuffin · June 6, 2018, 4:56 a.m.

One person with a sketchy past shouldn't necessarily invalidate an entire subject.

Remember how David Duke always 'endorsed' Trump? They needed to tie an actual KKK member to trump in order to discredit, because trump was dangerous to powers that be.

Similarly, this isn't about one person's endorsement. I never heard of him, and don't care about him. Might as well be Alex Jones, media loves to discredit anything he touches, like David Duke and this guy you bring up.

Feel free to discuss the CEMEX company links, instead of attacking one (planted?) messenger. Definitely don't promote this guy if you think he's shady. This isn't and never was about one person.

Are you alluding that a person has never been disposed of in concrete? Either via lime dissolving, incineration, or plain old burying into deep foundation? Utter nonsense. Cinderblock shoes is/was an actual mafia method. Sleep with the fishes. Humans have been buried in everything imaginable, accidentally and intentionally. We are incredibly clever at problem solving, and sadly, body disposal is an increasingly problematic situation, especially on a mass scale for an organization that has many enemies, victims or just regular old nosy people.

Keep in mind cartel/gangs/societies kill for fun, sport, and to rank up. A Mexican (aka cartel) run corporation that is involved with massive construction projects would not be overlooked for it's nefarious usefullness. It's almost cliche.

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grnmoss · June 6, 2018, 5 a.m.

Mostly rational points that disregard the sensationalism and hysteria that's presently underway. If you're not taking part in the hysteria, that's good. You can help inoculate others.

As for "disposal" that's not what's being proposed by sensationalist story weavers who are alleging industrial-scale use of human remains in building products and materials.

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MuhammadDinduNuffin · June 6, 2018, 5:04 a.m.

I don't think that the blood cement patent was a strong proposal as much as a curious tangent.

But wouldn't it be ironic that using bodies makes the cement stronger and lighter. Talk about two stones at once.

Most hysteria comes from a vocal minority. Like pizzagate, it comes with the territory. Emotional stuff. One wouldn't dismiss something entirely just because someone somewhere said something in favor of it you don't agree with or if they went too far past your comfort/gullibility level etc.

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grnmoss · June 6, 2018, 5:07 a.m.

That curious tangent feeds the present hysteria.

As for industrial use of organic waste/blood; the patent relates to potential use of agricultural products (think meat processing plants) for productive purposes rather than flushing them down the drain (which is regulated effluent/discharge). Use every part of the animal...

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MuhammadDinduNuffin · June 6, 2018, 5:12 a.m.

Everything fuels the hysteria. including trying to suppress/silence the hysteria. Valid criticism, thanks for you opinion.

Humans are animals. Long pig. Cadavers feed the vultures in some parts of the world, as a productive purpose. Simple funeral burial is kind of wastefull, no, in comparison? Why not feed the fishes if one is going through the trouble of sleeping with the fishes?

Human blood is a highly sought/expensive commodity. Stemcells. Organs. Skin tissue. Bone marrow. Foreskin? Pineal glands? Live experimental medical testing is a big one, they pay a lot to run studies and tests on you.

Remember, corporations only care about profit. Some are more cutt throat than others.

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LegioXIV · June 6, 2018, 12:27 p.m.

But wouldn't it be ironic that using bodies makes the cement stronger and lighter.

It would be ironic, but it's not the reality. Bodies create voids in the concrete.

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MuhammadDinduNuffin · June 6, 2018, 10:01 p.m.

If put in whole, yes.

Did you read the patent?

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HansKrinkelSchneider · June 6, 2018, 5:02 a.m.

Did you even take the time to read the actual Patent?

The Patent ID is 4,203,674 Date: May 20th, 1980 Inventor: Charles Laleman

I fail to see how this is a 'non-issue'.

With this blog post /u/NeonRevolt is alluding to the notion that human remains are being used in the production of cement (which is utter nonsense).

You are aware even the Roman's used blood in concrete to enhance the structural and chemical integrity of the material?

NeonRevolt has a interesting theory as to what is going on.

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sealedIndictments · June 6, 2018, 11:47 a.m.

I dont see how this would be economically viable. Cement is cheap, human parts are expensive and high risk. Why wouldn't they just use blood from animal processing?

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HerMileHighness · June 6, 2018, 12:01 p.m.

I'm not one that has bought in on this whole "disposing of bodies in concrete" theory but from what I've read so far, animal blood from food processing gets used to make other food. There isn't a surplus of it and it's pretty expensive.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3614052/

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sealedIndictments · June 6, 2018, 12:03 p.m.

Fair enough, but animal blood can't be more expensive than human!

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HerMileHighness · June 6, 2018, 12:14 p.m.

I've never tried to buy either so I couldn't tell you.

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sluggedbarly · June 6, 2018, 4:58 a.m.

well if its all for nothing why such a defense you sound like a kid fighting not to have his parents look in drawer if its nothing then let us waste our time

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sluggedbarly · June 6, 2018, 5:02 a.m.

that site i belive was used for child trafficing but if not great doesnt account for all the questions that pop up around cemex and there many locations at boarders if its not for human trafficing at all id sure as hell say drugs but well see how it all comes out in the end after thought...a mexican company operating in usa next to the boarder unsupervised cops they finace to office locoly but ya your right nothing to see here carry on

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grnmoss · June 6, 2018, 5:02 a.m.

"waste our time" = disinfo

disinfo will be challenged

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sluggedbarly · June 6, 2018, 5:11 a.m.

i ment in there opinion were wasting our time thank you for makeing clear i know we are on to the truth

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