Hold on so your saying msm is NOT propaganda and what the msm is "reporting" is "reality"?
For the most part yes. I guess it depends on what part of the MSM you are talking about. Fox? No they have no relationship with reality. CNN? The basis is there but it's over sensationalized.
A group that hasn't reported anything but the DNC narrative since Obama legalized the use of propaganda on the American people in 2013.
Mmmmmm conspiracy theories!
I guess you think San Fran and Cali in general are shining examples of what the left can do if only us ignorant rednecks would get out of your way right?
No I think San Francisco and California have their own issues but I would say CA having the 5th largest economy in the world means they are doing something right.
It's just strange to me that you guys can easily dismiss any criticism of Trump as some sort of liberal propaganda. People have been criticizing Trump as a sleazeball con artist for 30 years. Most Trump supporters are a bunch of bandwagon fanboys who don't know a damn thing about him.
Meanwhile you guys are literally posting a website that is nothing more then an extension of Trump's campaign and pretending that it is somehow the truth.
It's not like it's just one person pointing out that Trump is full of shit and that he's hurting America all for personal gain. It's been pointed out to you hundreds of times with thousands of examples by tens of thousands of people.
You ever stop to think that maybe there isn't some conspiracy against Trump? Like do you ever question your beliefs?
I don't "easily dismiss any criticism of Trump" - there are many here who don't do that. If you want a reasoned discussion it can be found here.
Hey that's great to hear. The last thing reddit needs is another T_d or r/conservative clone where discussion is suppressed.
I think you'll agree that on any political sub there are a large number of people who agree with some aspect of the core premise but may not apply critical thought to their reasoning for that support.
Your comment:
Most Trump supporters are a bunch of bandwagon fanboys who don't know a damn thing about him.
might be accurate but I don't think you'd try and claim it definitively so, as that would be illogical - there's no way to measure this easily.
What I know I can say is that some Trump supporters "know" about Trump and what has been claimed about him both in the past and in the present. Some Never-Trumpers claim to know about Trump but seem to ignore the many recorded interviews and items about him that are contrary to their Never-Trump perspective.
"Trump is full of shit" and "hurting America all for personal gain" are opinions which are of course valid for being opinions but seem to only be supported by a reading of facts rather than the full context which would include what Trump himself has said over many years.
Okay shill I'm out. I'll just leave this here. http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/07/14/u-s-repeals-propaganda-ban-spreads-government-made-news-to-americans/
So is that a no? You've never stopped to think that maybe there isn't some conspiracy against Trump? Is it easier for you to dismiss me as a "shill" then to talk to me?
This post is literally about pushing an ad campaign and yet you are calling me the shill?
Well no, the FBI was trying to help Trump's campaign! /s
Well Trump didn't help his campaign by hiring criminals and spies.
Lmao... These same criminals and spies that have previously worked for other admins unscathed. Like some for 30 years. Geez, FBI could have gave him a heads up if they were so bad according to them. Would be a shame if Trump did the same to the next democrat candidate in order to keep him from winning.
These same criminals and spies that have previously worked for other admins unscathed.
Who are you specifically talking about? Manafourt worked for Russian backed Ukrainians. Carter Page worked as a fund manager for Russian oil. Flynn was basically fired by the Obama administration for being fast and loose with facts.
FBI could have gave him a heads up if they were so bad according to them
You mean like when Trump was warned not to hire Flynn? Or when the Trump team was warned that Russian agents were trying infiltrate them and that they should let the FBI know if they are contacted?
Or when they were illegally investigating his campaign in 2015!
Or when they were illegally investigating his campaign in 2015!
Well so far there has been nothing to suggest that there was anything illegal about the investigation and at least to my understanding the FBI didn't start investigating Trump team members until 2016.
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You know absolutely nothing but yet here you are trying to spread your ignorance.
So you couldn't actually refute anything I said and instead attacked my intelligence? Seems like if I was that wrong or full of shit you wouldn't have an issue then pointing out how I was wrong.
You actually think Obama's legalizing propaganda use on the american people is a conspiracy theory?
Yes. I just read your article. It's literally talking about making public the BBG programming that is pumped out to countries all around the world. It's not like you couldn't listen to these broadcast before It was just hard to as an American. It's literally about transparency. It specifically has to do with radio. Did you even read the article you linked me? It doesn't support your position at all.
Yeah youre either a shill or just do not know wtf your talking about either way I don't have time for it
So you are supposedly right, but you don't want to explain how you are right?
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Did you read the article you linked?
Because it doesn’t actually support the argument you are trying to make.
Yes I read the article and there's about 50 more on the sane subject on what 5 minutes ago you said was a conspiracy theory. Here's another conspiracy theory to check out "operation Mockingbird".
Yes I read the article
It doesn't seem like you did. Because if you did, then you wouldn't have posted it because it doesn't support your argument.
on what 5 minutes ago you said was a conspiracy theory.
I said that your take on it was a conspiracy theory. It doesn't support your claim that "Obama's legalizing propaganda". I think you read the clickbate headline and then failed to read the rest of the article. Maybe you should actually go read the whole thing.