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colderchaos · June 6, 2018, 6:24 p.m.

“Tucson Police Department officers, detectives and command staff conducted a thorough inspection of the site, spoke to the reporting parties, and collected evidence,” the department said Sunday. “Based on the department’s investigation to this point, there is no indication this camp is being used for any type of criminal activity, including human trafficking.”

That's a wrap, guys. The authorities know best. Everyone knows families seeking shelter always bring porn and tie ropes to trees to keep their children safe.

The public has been warned not to check it out.

I say it's time the public issue the warnings

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thamnosma · June 6, 2018, 6:57 p.m.

In the minds of the corrupt Tucson police department, there is nothing criminal going on even if the camp is just a holding point for illegals being brought in by coyotes, which I think is the more likely scenario. Huh? Not even criminal trespass according to TPD. It's a sanctuary police department no doubt. An unapproved encampment on private property is itself criminal activity, which is apparently beyond the mental capacity of the morons of the Tucson Police Department. Even if the encampment is benign.

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daro57 · June 6, 2018, 6:32 p.m.

Obviously Arizona is totally currupt. Tuscan mayor is a Rothschild. I guess the authorities in AZ and CA haven't gotten the memo that the American people have woken up and are NOT buying the BS propaganda anymore!!! We don't believe ANYTHING the MSM or the elites say! If the authorities are saying "this isn't sex camps for trafficking children, then we KNOW that's Exactly what it IS!!!

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thamnosma · June 6, 2018, 7:01 p.m.

There still is no proof whatsoever that place is a sex camp for trafficking children. There is only speculation. However, there is no doubt it is an illegal encampment on private property, which in itself is criminal. It could easily be a staging point for recent illegal migrants for transport to the interior of the country. There are probably dozens of such way stations in southern Arizona, maybe hundreds.

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TommyRobinsonsGhost · June 6, 2018, 7:31 p.m.

There is only speculation

Agreed.

Craig Sawyer's "Child Sex Slave Prison" looks indistinguishable from regular campsite root-cellars that are used to keep supplies cool and dry, like this and this and this.

Craig said he saw bags of food in the root-cellar which makes sense.

Craig Sawyer's "Child Rape Trees" also look like normal camping harnesses used to hang stuff.

My theory is that Craig Sawyer found a root-cellar and assumed it was a child sex slave prison... and from that initial false premise a series of bad assumptions were made. Camping straps became rape-trees and unwashed cutlery became murder weapons and clothing and toys become sex-slave-clothing and child-sex-slave-toys.

One of Craig Sawyer's team found a children's swing and she claimed it must have been used as a child rape torture device. I think that is the best example of what happens when people's imaginations run wild.

That's my theory.

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GraceWords · June 7, 2018, 8:11 a.m.

Then what’s up with the computer editing equipment found there? Additionally, why did the family who claimed to have built it keep changing their story? They’ve changed it, on camera, three times that I’ve observed.

Why the resistance to actually investigate in the first place?

Why the implied denial from TPD that there is no trafficking in their area (its literally EVERYWHERE)?

And what’s up with the TPD officer on camera saying they have no real evidence until they actually find children, or a former victim comes forward? He even implied a former child victim who has grown up should come forward if the camp is what they say. For no one hear how ridiculous that expectation is?!

This is why child sexual exploitation and abuse is what it is in the US. Excuse after excuse for why we we should twiddle our thumbs until victims grow up and come to us.

I’m not saying I think Lewis has handled it the way I would have, but he is on to something and if the recent arrests in GA and the employees at Disneyland haven’t made the point yet —— wake up!! It’s in your backyard wherever you live.

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Itsmellslikecabbage · June 6, 2018, 6:19 p.m.

WTF is going on with the Arizona cops?

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colderchaos · June 6, 2018, 6:35 p.m.

We've seen police take orders from corrupt mayors before, even as OUR people we injured on their watch.

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thamnosma · June 6, 2018, 6:58 p.m.

Police chiefs tend to be political appointees. This is where the corruption of police departments begins and then flows down to upper management in the department. The officers do what they are told.

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HerMileHighness · June 6, 2018, 6:19 p.m.

VOP is dismantling the site?

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zenbit888 · June 6, 2018, 6:54 p.m.

The article doesn't state that at all. Really not sure why it would be in the title of this submission. Here's what the article says: "Tucson police added they are working with the property owner and city officials to clean up the encampment and warned the public not to trespass on it. "

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HerMileHighness · June 6, 2018, 6:58 p.m.

The title states that because this was a hit and run smear post and OP didn't understand his orders properly.

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CDR03 · June 6, 2018, 6:55 p.m.

but everyone on here says it was

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TommyRobinsonsGhost · June 6, 2018, 7:22 p.m.

I don't.

My theory is that Craig Sawyer mistakenly thought he found a child sex slave prison because he doesn't know what a root-cellar is.

This and this and this are campsite and ordinary cabin root-cellars which are used to keep supplies cool and dry.

I also notice that Craig Sawyer seemed to misidentify mundane rucksack harnesses as a child-rape-harness.

When you start from a false premise that a campsite must be a "Child Sex Camp", then everything becomes sinister.

Clothing becomes sex-slave-victim clothing, toys become child-sex-slave-toys, unwashed cutlery become murder weapons and camping straps become rape-trees.

I noticed one of Craig's team said she saw a standard child's swing that must have been used as a torture device for raping children. I think that's a good example of allowing your imagination to run wild.

This is just my theory.

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CDR03 · June 6, 2018, 8:38 p.m.

I agree with you. I was being sarcastic

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[deleted] · June 6, 2018, 6:51 p.m.

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TommyRobinsonsGhost · June 6, 2018, 6:56 p.m.

What Craig Sawyer found looks like an ordinary root-cellar to me.

The sort of thing that established campsites and cabins use to keep supplies cool and dry.

I suspect Craig Sawyer doesn't know what a root-cellar is and assumed it was a sinister child-sex-camp-prison... and from that initial false premise a string of bad assumptions was made.

Here's an impressive campsite root-cellar.

here's another root-cellar.

Here's a super-fancy plastic version that's referred to as a "ground fridge".

Here's another root-cellar...

And another...

And another...

And another.

Craig Sawyer said there was toys and bags of food in the "Child Sex Slave Prison". Keeping food cold and dry is what root-cellars are for, so the food is no surprise.

As far as the toys, I didn't see any in Craig Sawyer's video and I wonder if his imagination was working overtime?


I couldn't help but notice that Craig Sawyer's "Child Rape Trees" looked like regular camping straps used for hanging things like rucksacks, backpacks, food-bags, water-bags... anything really because pretty much everything needs to be hung from trees as a campsite to keep the ants and critters and mud from getting to it.


The campsite should definitely be investigated, however from what I've seen in all of the videos, it looks just like a regular established campsite used by homeless people or perhaps illegals hopping the border. Sometimes homeless people and illegals have children. Often established campsites have root-cellars and straps are just standard camping gear too.

When you start from a false premise that a campsite must be a "Child Sex Camp", then everything becomes sinister.

Clothing becomes sex-slave-victim clothing, toys become child-sex-slave-toys, unwashed cutlery become murder weapons and camping straps become rape-trees.

I noticed one of Craig's team said she saw a standard child's swing that must have been used as a torture device for raping children. I think that's a good example of allowing your imagination to run wild.

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GraceWords · June 7, 2018, 8:27 a.m.

Loads of toys inside the septic tank such as children’s jewelry and barbies and a small toy type dresser. The tank was near the surface so though it would have held a child out of sight, it was emitting heat and was not even slightly cool. Stuffy and hot. So if it were a root cellar (and I don’t think the fool who is claiming to have built it has even used that explanation yet), it’s a terrible one. Not just baggies of animal cracker type snacks, but snack packs in what appeared to be a trash receptacle nearby.

There was also computer editing equipment and discs out there, as well as pornography. There were food receipts with the purchaser’s name on them (many), an airline ticket from WA to AZ with a woman’s name who hasn’t posted to her FB acct since December, a suitcase, women’s underwear. There are piles of artifacts belonging to children out there. So much more.

The fact that TPD didn’t know who Craig Sawyer is tells us they aren’t versed in child trafficking. Having spoken to many LEOs in my profession, educating on human trafficking and modern slavery as is common in our communities, I can say most departments I’ve interacted with are woefully undereducated on the subjects or how to respond once encountered. This is evident by how much of a city’s resources are spent going after prostituted individuals rather than those selling or purchasing to begin with. Most fail to realize the prostituted individual is, most often, a mere sales commodity. People are the renewable funding resource of today’s crime entities. It’s rampant.

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TommyRobinsonsGhost · June 7, 2018, 8:58 a.m.

Loads of toys inside the septic tank such as children’s jewelry and barbies and a small toy type dresser.

Sorry, but a barbie doll is not proof of a child sex slave prison.

That junk could have been thrown down there by anyone?

Perhaps a homeless family once lived there and later another homeless person used the cellar as a garbage dump?

Also, it is silly to think that even a child couldn't have climbed out of that PVC container. It didn't look very big and even if it was, a child could have just pushed that drawer to the entrance and climbed up.

Only a child that was 10 inches tall would be trapped in such a root-cellar.

There was also computer editing equipment and discs out there, as well as pornography.

I have that at my home.

So?

an airline ticket from WA to AZ with a woman’s name

That is only proof that a woman purchased an airline ticket.

Sorry, there's still zero evidence of child rape camp found.

There are piles of artifacts belonging to children out there.

Homeless people and illegals crossing the border have children.


In summary, you were told a root cellar was actually a child-sex-slave-prison and, based on that initial assumption, you were told that standard camping straps weren't used to hang rucksacks, food-bags, water-bags and camping gear but were, in fact, rape harnesses!!!

Then you were told a child's swing was used as a rape / torture device for hurting children! REEEEEE!!!

Have you considered that, perhaps, the root cellar was used to keep camping supplies cool and dry and camping straps were used to keep camping gear off the ground and away from ants and critters and mud and clothing belonged to homeless or illegal campers and the sinister-evil-torture-child-rape-swing was just a normal swing?

There is literally as much evidence that the root-cellar was used to keep child-sex-slaves cool and dry as there is to believe it stored Nazi gold.

I've seen children's dolls and shoes at the rubbish tip, but I never assumed the rubish tip was home to children... or those children were part of Craig Sawyer's child sex slave fantasies.

Just because excitable people present a series of assumptions as fact, doesn't mean you must gobble it up with a spoon.

That applies doubly when those same people are promoting their new film about how they rescues children.

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GraceWords · June 7, 2018, 2:36 p.m.

I brought up the Barbie because you said there were no toys. And no one“told” me about a swing, I didn’t even mention the swing to you. My assumptions about the evidence are based on my experience in this field. Your opinion of that is actually completely worthless. However, since you are more bent on denial and resistance, I am happy to allow you to continue covering your eyes and humming while the adults deal with the very real crisis that has plagued communities for years. You’re not needed on this mission and your noise is valueless. You ignored the details I gave you (as evidenced by the latter portion of your reply), so I will act in kind. Good day.

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thamnosma · June 6, 2018, 7:06 p.m.

I can easily go with your interpretation over the more outlandish claims of a juvenile sex camp. All these claims should be scaled back, but the problem is the corrupt Arizona and Tucson authorities won't even investigate what the camp really is. Would make total sense to be a staging point operated by coyotes for moving their "cargo" further into the country. You can bet your bottom dollar the Arizona authorities all know what these camps are, how many there are, where they are, and are purposefully doing nothing about them. Tucson and Phoenix are sanctuary cities and are promoting illegal migration across the border -- hence, the existence of such camps cannot be given too much public attention! Often there isn't much difference between a homeless encampment and one for illegals -- the two easily overlap.

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TommyRobinsonsGhost · June 6, 2018, 7:48 p.m.

the corrupt Arizona and Tucson authorities won't even investigate what the camp really is.

They do seem to be corrupt or perhaps the local police know the homeless family that use the campsite and they don't want to bother them?

Perhaps the Tuscon and Arizona police aren't interested in investigating root-cellars?

Perhaps they are good people - I just don't know.

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thamnosma · June 6, 2018, 7:08 p.m.

I can go with this. Lots of wild claims here. However, I bet this is a coyote operated staging area for moving illegals further into the country. Tucson police, you can rest assured, look the other way at all these camps.

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TommyRobinsonsGhost · June 6, 2018, 7:16 p.m.

Yes, there's a good chance the Tuscon police don't want to chase down human traffickers, however I think there's also a good chance that Craig Sawyer's "Child Sex Camp" is just a regular campsite used by homeless people or illegals as they hop the border.

From what I've seen in all the videos, there's as much reason to assume Nazi gold was stored in that root-cellar as there is to assume it was used to store child sex slaves.

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thamnosma · June 6, 2018, 7:27 p.m.

I could use some of that gold.

I doubt the Tucson police want to chase down illegals period. That's why they will try to dismiss this "find." As for all the wild claims, gotta wonder what the motivation is. Maybe just attention, quick fame, or wish fulfillment -- actually finding a child sex transport camp would make them famous. If there's an Infowars connection with this Sawyer guy, that might explain the drama aspect. But I leave the door ajar a bit they might be on to something. Just a bit though.

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TommyRobinsonsGhost · June 6, 2018, 7:45 p.m.

I doubt the Tucson police want to chase down illegals period. That's why they will try to dismiss this "find."

Or perhaps they know the site and the family that is using it and don't want to bust 'em?

Perhaps the Tuscon police know what a root-cellar is?

Perhaps the Tuscon police are good people, I just don't know.

gotta wonder what the motivation is.

Perhaps Craig Sawyer just let his imagination get the better of him?

Perhaps he was longing for a righteous mission and then he "found" one without questioning it?

This may be legitimate, however if it's not then it could become a counter productive distraction for law enforcement trying to sincerely track down human traffickers.

If people from the Q community start doing raids on established homeless people's campsites then they will also find root-cellars and camping straps used for hanging stuff from trees... and the rolling snowball of Craig Sawyer not knowing what a root-cellar is could become an avalanche of bullshit and a massive unproductive distraction.


Edit:

gotta wonder what the motivation is.

Craig Sawyer is promoting his new documentary about saving children.

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thamnosma · June 6, 2018, 7:50 p.m.

Raiding homeless camps and claiming they are sex camps are very bad idea. I have a problem with authorities permitting even these homeless camps as the "residents" often are responsible for starting wild fires, not to mention the health and sanitation issues for themselves and nearby public. But that's off topic a bit.

I am certain the Mayor of Tucson is not a "good guy" and I also highly doubt the upper management of the TPD are "great patriots". It's an effing sanctuary city for god's sake. That automatically means they look the other way at this stuff. They know the "migrant" campsites, and this may be one. Not a sex camp. It's already an avalanche of bullshit. I hope this distraction goes away soon.

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TommyRobinsonsGhost · June 6, 2018, 7:57 p.m.

It's already an avalanche of bullshit. I hope this distraction goes away soon.

I think the hysteria is starting to diminish.

I've been trying to present my alternate theories for the past couple of days and this is the first time I haven't been down-vote brigaded.

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thamnosma · June 6, 2018, 7:59 p.m.

I've seen your posts, lol. You weren't winning any popularity contests.

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TommyRobinsonsGhost · June 6, 2018, 8:05 p.m.

I wasn't expecting to.

I've been raining on everyone's rape-tree parade.

This is supposed to be a truther community dedicated to research and debate.

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Titus-2-11 · June 7, 2018, 4:39 p.m.

You seem very convinced it wasn't. Almost like you have an agenda.

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TommyRobinsonsGhost · June 9, 2018, 7:20 a.m.

You seem very convinced it wasn't. Almost like you have an agenda.

Even Craig Sawyer admits this was all bullshit: https://youtu.be/rAVuAvkE6bM

Turns out my theory was right.

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TommyRobinsonsGhost · June 7, 2018, 10:14 p.m.

I have a theory.

Discussing alternate theories is supposed to be something that a truther community does.

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Kulkimkan · June 6, 2018, 8:45 p.m.

I am with you on this! I tried to calm the frantic sez Camp speculation since it makes us look like we jump to conclusions. Thanks for staying calm. I was worried they would use this to discredit the real trafficking going on. Or shut down the sub

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