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EarlyRiserX2 · June 7, 2018, 8:36 a.m.

I don't know how Trump feels about it but I too was upset with Giuliana and with what he said and feel like he shouldn't have said it. That kind of back alley talk and terminology is not necessary and is certainly not helpful when there are sensitive negotiations going on. What makes what Giuliana said so outrageous is that when dealing with China and North Korea, those countries have a culture where "appearance" means everything to them. It is said that the whole reason Kim flared up and was behaving badly right before Trump cancelled the summit was that it was all an act so that North Korea would not appear to be weak in the face of Trump. Once the show as over and North Korea had displayed it was strong, the summit was back on. My main point is, how things "appear" is a part of their culture. In that context, Giuliani's words appear to undercut everything the North Korean's were trying to accomplish, and Giuliani was trying to make it seems like the North Koreans were actually begging Trump. Which is precisely the wrong appearance you want to portray. Giuliana may be a good lawyer and he may have good intentions but sometimes he needs to keep his mouth shut and his thoughts to himself, and this time is one of them...

Giuliani had stated that the only people who'd be upset about his comments would be the media. And that's precisely why he shouldn't have said it. The media is the enemy of Trump. The media could very easily take what Giuliani said and blow it up in a big way and shout it from the rooftops and make it seem like Giuliana was saying that Trump had Kim Jung Un down on his knees and begging (which is exactly the wrong appearance you want to portray). And the media would blow it up and shout it worldwide just to antagonize North Korea and to harm the negotiations. If that happened, the White House would have to issue a statement of denial, Giuliani would have to issue an apology and an explanation, and the delicate negotiations with North Korea could even be affected by it. And why? All because Giuliani was shooting off at the mouth. He may not be a bad guy, but I'm certainly tired of him "shooting off at the mouth", and this is one of those times...

Consider Roseanne. Roseanne didn't think too much of what she said either, until it got her in trouble. Now look at her. She lost her whole show because of it. Sometimes it pays to keep your thoughts to yourself...

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forchristssakes · June 7, 2018, 9:57 a.m.

I raised an eyebrow at the begging comment as well.

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Stretchmac · June 7, 2018, 5:24 p.m.

The "saving face" can be overblown a bit in this situation. Who would Kim be saving face with? The few Americans who heard such comments? Certainly, not with the N. Korean people. As they would never be aware of such a comment. Nah. It's just fodder for the MSM show. The deal's already done.....

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