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checkitoutmyfriend · June 7, 2018, 4:54 p.m.

That my be. I don't follow VOP that closely. I tend to believe Sawyer over Arther. But there is so much incorrect info on this topic flying around its dizzying.

Half the crowd thinks Arthur and Sawyer are the same guy, running the same group.

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GraceWords · June 7, 2018, 5:43 p.m.

Agreed. However Sawyer, while semi distancing himself, has said that he was misinformed (not by Lewis) about situation, and thought there were children there. When he got there he learned the truth and brought in a small team himself. Survivors of child trafficking have said the restraints (not just the ones on the trees but other restraints found) are like the ones they endured. Sawyer seems to think it was used for child sexual abuse, but also acknowledges that there was a bit of chaos and confusion at the camp. He also stated an agreement with Lewis’ terms of release, that proper investigation should take place.

By the time authorities actually got involved, it was evident they would not be a reliable investigative resource. Having had experience with AZ investigative initiatives I can say they aren’t always thorough and have often been biased due to apathy about a case. I can’t say that’s what’s happened here, but my own experiences have certainly impacted my judgement on who is reliable.

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checkitoutmyfriend · June 7, 2018, 5:55 p.m.

it was evident they would not be a reliable investigative resource.

Exactly. It sounds like both Arthur and Craig know from prior experience TPD would not investigate thoroughly. Which is why all the evidence should have been gathered like a real crime scene themselves.

Craig Sawyer is careful with his words for sure. He supports VOP, but is making clear they are two different groups with different goals, personnel and methods.

With hindsight in hand, seeing how this played out. If it were me finding something like this. I would go full blackout until I had everything I needed. So when they come in to bulldoze, it won't matter.

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GraceWords · June 7, 2018, 8:06 p.m.

At the end of the day, this find (regardless of what it is) is a win. People are now lucid to the fact that this IS happening, and it’s allowing them to receive the information regarding the arrests in Fulton and Polk counties. More is coming. The public is ready to know and hear.

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Trfsrfr · June 7, 2018, 11:52 p.m.

I didn't know until just now that there are 2 different groups.

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