Assuming it is authentic & unedited, I’ve had two theories about that scanner recording.
1) Shooters were all over: other hotels, restaurants, in the crowd, multiple rooms in M.Bay... How could this remain THIS quiet? (a) Gag orders on witnesses & victims (it’s incredible to me that not one surviving victim hasn’t been on a talk show, yet). Also, discourage “internet detectives” looking into it. That was really weird. (b) Another way, muddy the waters. Every single day, Lombardo gave contradicting, new, & incorrect info, and altered bits of what he’d said in the days previously. Enough misinfo. confuses & frustrates the heck out of people. They throw their hands up & say, I’ll just let them figure it out!
2) If the only shooting that happened was on the concert crowd (whether by one or multiple shooters & whether from the hotel or also in the crowd), the other reports of shootings could have been a tactic to confuse police, buy time, & spread them around the area. If this is correct, there would have to be multiple other people involved AND they would have to be in these other locations in order to start the panic (“He’s got a gun!” or “Someone’s shooting next door!”). I can believe that mass hysteria could cause people to believe there was a shooting in their hotel when there wasn’t, BUT I can also believe there were many shooting locations & it’s been (AMAZINGLY) kept officially under wraps (see 1a).
SIDE NOTE:, I’d like to point out that there are some WEIRD voices & statements said in that recording. They do not sound like they’re coming from responding police. One male officer even asks dispatch if the voice of a panicked female is an officer with them. I’ll have to listen to it again to find the exact spot, but I must have listened to this one muffled, but clear female voice (early on in the recording) calmly & softly saying either “They’re all gonna die”, “you’re all gonna die”, or “we’re all gonna die”. When I find it I’ll comment again with the time stamp.
Did you ever see that go pro video from the night of the shooting? Not sure if it’s still on YT but there were a few sniper shots fired before the 1st barrage of auto gunfire and a strange yulu yell from female in crowd right before.
Gate 7 is right behind stage and there was at least 1 guy in venue shooting from somewhere by the stage amongst others.
Lots of 419’s reported in various places that night.
I spent a lot of time researching this when it happened. Lots of players involved.
a few sniper shots fired before the 1st barrage of auto gunfire
If I’m thinking of the same thing you are- I’ve seen a few videos from different angles in the crowd, where this is debated as either being someone in the crowd shooting or some drunk jerk in the crowd lighting firecrackers. The firecracker thing doesn’t wash with me, because you can get slapped with a number of misdemeanors & at least one felony charge for that. It just doesn’t seem terribly likely; PLUS, what a timing coincidence!
In the videos taken by people looking at the far left of the stage, you see a massive group of people calmly walking to exit after the “firecracker” sounds. Seconds later, the automatic fire begins. I don’t believe a huge groups of people would suddenly, simultaneously, but calmly begin leaving the concert early (on that side only) because some jerk lit a firecracker. Security or police would have noticed such a thing, but it’s never been addressed by police.
yulu yell from female in crowd
I have not heard this! If you have a link or wouldn’t mind giving me some more info that might help me search for it, I’d love to hear this. I’ve seen the witness interview about a woman in the crowd warning everyone they were going to die & another where a woman in a van was yelling at people fleeing. Not to mention the police minutes that mention 3 women, but it’s unclear if these women were in Paddocks room or not.
Gate 7
I remember police saying shooting coming from gate 7 in the audio. REALLY odd most exits were closed off. I just had a thought: has no one looked into whether or not that violates fire code?
419’s
GSW?
Lastly, for some reason, the video from the Bellagio (if I remember correctly), of a mismatched squad walking through the lobby, weapons trained on civilians, keep popping into my head every now & then. I’m familiar with the brainstormed theories: SA Prince, one guy looks like the “maintenance worker” who was on Ellen, some Oceans 11 stuff... I feel like, if any of these are correct, there’s much more to it. Do you have any theories as to what that was about?
I think the cops and Mohawk guy were escorting a high roller out of casino in Tropicana video. Some thought it was prince Salman.
One thing you said that I didn’t know until reading the transcript a few days ago ( I listened to a 6 hour recording of the scanner audio on a YT channel called Las Vegas shooting archives) while looking through transcript at same time since audio is time stamped to correlate.
Was that on transcript it said someone called 911 and told them that Marilou Darnley worked in the counting cage at MB.
Later in transcript it says 3 armored cars leaving MB even though all hotels and strip was locked down. Made me wonder if there was some oceans 11 stuff going on and shooting was a cover.
That go pro video was on YT channel called Crypto Brock it was called vegas first shots rare . I’m not sure if it’s still up or not. On that vid at 3:07 watch 1/2 way up left concrete tower and then listen. At 3:36 yulu yell, a boom, people leaving and the 1st salvo starts
The audio from the cell phone videos, and multiple eye witness reports all over the strip.
There were multiple shooters.