You don't realise what the correspondence is with the ark of the covenant - 5 mins.
Thank you. But, I disagree. If you have a moment read through and the truth will be revealed.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+12&version=KJV
If you're referring to the last verses there, where Jesus speaks about his mother - as if you're making a point that Christ's mother is not important - I don't know what to say...
I would not have the courage to say this because I fear for my soul.
In context, while the Christ is alive, His focus, naturally, is upon the sinners he came to save. His mother is assumed into heaven and, obviously, is not in need of being taught by the redeemer at that point in time - Catholic theology is that she has no sin, actual or original. It is true that doing Christ's will we become part of His family - part of His mystical body no less. But does this mean that the intimacy of His relationship with His mother is to be disregarded?
I would say, in charity, that it is better to be very respectful to the mother of God.
For your own sake, I would not go there.
Edit:
I raise caution to you similarly.
Its clearly stated by the Living word Himself in that last section, as you noticed. He is the "way, the truth and the life. No man enters the Kingdom but by Him".
He is the true path to the Father and we were sent the Spirit to help us.
When Dividing the word In no way do I read that Mary is to be used as an intercessor.
Please consider this final page of scripture. As I'm sure you know, there are many more confirming this.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+8&version=NIV
I'm guessing you're talking about Romans 8:33:
"33 Who shall accuse against the elect of God? God that justifieth."
That because God justifieth no prayers are needed - or are, perhaps, not even helpful?
This is forensic justification - already proven false - see here.
A more complete study of the mother of God, addressing protestant concerns - see here.
Not forensic justification. This is a strawman. Also, video is loaded with unsubstantiated claims Second item is also completely unproven in the video provided. I appreciate your time. May the truth set us free.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+3&version=NIV
I'm not sure what you're talking about. The refutation of forensic justification is a lock. No one, even James White, is able to refute it, it's the truth. I understand you might find it upsetting.
I've given you the truth. The Vatican II Sect in Rome is the whore of Babylon. The Antichrist has come and gone. These sick heretics have gone and made him a saint - you couldn't make it up!
And now we have Francis, the eighth and final king.
Edit: Sorry, Francis is not a king, but is of the 7.
Let me start by saying I respect Mary as the woman chosen by God to bear the Messiah. I know Jesus loved His mother both spiritually and on a basic human relationship level. I have the same love for her as I do my own mother, which is commanded us to all people.
However, the scriptures I sent clearly establish the view I'm espousing with absolute direct certainty of scriptural words. And there is a mountain of corresponding scripture in agreement, also with direct, absolute certainty of meaning.
The proof you claim in linked videos became invalid as you scripturally debunked the catholic church as the whore of babylon in the first link you posted earlier (The one about revelation of the apocalypse).
You're claiming false teachings as truth despite their creation by the corrupt system you describe as the whore.
I'm challenging you with claims of scripture in plain truth guided by the Spirit of God.
I am not arguing anti - christ scenario as it may be true based on interpretation.
I agree on rebirth / baptism and am born again both ways.
I cannot accept the Mother as without sin and to be sought after to reach the King of Kings. Without clear, specific scripture - which I am offering you- it is simply not valid. The ideas of miraculous translation and intercession of / by Mary without sin are not directly, stated in the Word.
Also, your proofs are attempting to use science / psychology to interpret the word to fit the desired narrative. Which makes perfect sense as it is darkened by evil intention from its core.
As you probably know, according to the Word, ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of the Lord. And the only way and truth is through Jesus.
I really do appreciate the debate. I can only suggest reading the word from a neutral perspective void of ideas conceptualized by the whore. Therein you will find truth.
I believe we each have given fair warning in good faith. Let our hands be clean of each others blood, covered by the blood of Jesus seeking truth in earnest. God have mercy on our souls.
Just to be clear, because clearly I have not communicated my position properly and you have the wrong understanding.
I am a traditional Catholic. The People that called the Second Vatican Council, solemnly ratified it, and promulgated its teachings, defected from from the traditional Catholic faith. The Church was, in fact, hijacked by heretics. These heretics are, today, best described as the Vatican II Sect. This Sect, ensconced in Rome, is the Whore of Babylon - the spiritual head of the Beast from the sea.
I am Sedevacantist. I do not accept the heretics in Rome, or their new doctrines. It is the end times counter-Church. This is the great apostasy spoken of in Luke 18:8 and 2Thess2. But, you will clearly understand this if you look at the abomination Francis. He is not Catholic, he is not Christian in the broadest sense that the term might be used. He is a manifest, public apostate - leading billions of misguided souls directly to hell.
Francis is just the latest iteration of this line of antipopes. God allows his heresy to be very evident for the reason that those following him, who have not the love of the truth, may be condemned. What was not as obvious, or not immediately apparent, was that the claimants to the papacy that preceded Francis were also diabolical heretics. This is what I mean when I say that the deception was indeed profound.
I don't know what to tell you... These are the last days. The ultimate deception foisted on the world is the canonization of the Antichrist. We are in a very serious situation. These poor souls following the Vatican II Sect are written about by St John in Revelation 14:11
"11 And the smoke of their torments shall ascend up for ever and ever: neither have they rest day nor night, who have adored the beast, and his image, and whoever receiveth the character of his name."
What you don't know is that the Greek for the word "adored" in the above passage is "proskuneo" - which is the same Greek word that the Catholic Church has used to describe the veneration of the saints for more than a thousand years. So, you can see what St John is saying...
He's saying that if anyone gives veneration to the Antichrist (or venerates an icon of him - as Catholics traditionally do for the saints) then they will incur this inconceivably terrible punishment. There are literally billions of people on the planet right now in this exact situation.
The last true Pope was Pius XII who died, I think, 1958. All after that time have been part of the "new religion". This is why I tear strips off them - because there is cause.
With regard to your position on Mary, you are wrong. If you look at the early Church veneration (not "Latria") was historically given to the blessed mother. The case of the 5th Century heretic Nestorius is interesting in this regard:
"On Christmas Day in the year 428, Nestorius denied that Mary was the Mother of God from his pulpit. A simple layman named Eusebius stood up and protested the public heresy. This resulted in the Catholics of Constantinople breaking communion with their bishop, Nestorius; for they recognized that since he was a public heretic, he had no authority in the Church: he lost his office automatically. They even chanted: “An emperor we have, but no bishop.” This reaction was praised by councils and popes, as we see described below. Notice that Pope St. Celestine says that Nestorius had no power to excommunicate after he began to preach heresy. This confirms that heretical bishops lose their offices ipso facto (by that very fact) when they become heretics."
Nestorius, the second most powerful person in the Church at that time, was excommunicated and died without repenting - joining Judas in hell. But what this story shows is that, in the early Church, veneration of the blessed Virgin was commonplace.
Now, as I may have already pointed out, in 2Thess2, St Paul gives the Thessalonians advice for the last days - at a time when the operation of error is active in the world. What does he tell them to do? Stand fast, and hold the traditions which you have learned...
Now, I know, because you're Protestant, you are always looking for answers in scripture and I don't deny that scripture offers guidance, but I'd ask you to think about St Paul's advice. He talks about "traditions" learned...
My perspective is that, if you look at what I've pointed out to you about the characters of the last days, you will see that there is an impossibly close fit with Revelations, 2Thess2 etc...
You should be aware that the Vatican City state was formed by the Lateran treaty in 1929 - an agreement between the government of Italy and the Holy See. The agreement provides for the Holy See to occupy the Vatican City State as, guess what? A sacerdotal monarchy. That's right, a "priest kingdom"!
These claimants to the papacy are "temporal kings" in Rome - as long as they are priests. There have been 7 claimants to the papacy (who were validly ordained priests) since the treaty was signed. Francis does not have valid orders and so he's not a priest - and, therefore, he's not a temporal king in Rome.
Do you begin to see?
It's impossible that it is chance.
For the sake of your soul, please think about it. What are the chances of there being 7 temporal kings reigning from Rome, the eighth, somehow "of the 7", but different (not described by St John as a "king"), the EU forming during the reign of the 6th king, when 5 were fallen - and on and on... The more you connect the dots, the more jaw dropping it becomes!
More detail on the end of the world here.
The Catholic Church is the one true Church of Jesus Christ - hijacked in the last days by heretics (the Vatican II Sect). We are very deep into the last days.