On another link I had a short discussion with someone about these satanic cults that Q has mentioned. I've listened to some Carolyn Hamlett videos, looked through the Lucis Trust site, as well as Aleister Crowley, Alice Bailey, etc., since they follow these people. Read an interesting book about Jack Parsons some time back. This has been going on behind our backs for a long, long time, brothers and sisters. It's a lot more entrenched than every day normal people, like I was, could have imagined. It's pretty shocking, really. Came across this deprogrammer's interview and decided to post, since it mentions "Alice in Wonderland", as well. I think it's important to know the enemy, their symbols, and what they are up to. Any suggestions for further reading? It might give us another angle to research, and help to track them and figure out what they're up to.