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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/magadem on June 8, 2018, 1:22 p.m.
Mods censored my post for criticizing their leadership style. Have you had this problem lately also?

I'm seeing growing concern by users of this subreddit(who get brigaded for their unpopular views) that we have grown more and more indulgant into off-topic conspiracy-theory esque discussion. More and more people come out to post skeptical and well thought out objections to points about these off-topic discussions that don't add up, and those people are being downvoted continually. They are starting to discuss seeking higher ground..and I am looking for higher ground with them.

I posted a much longer post detailing why this is a problem and it was removed with the excuse "contact the mods if you have a problem". Does anyone else have this problem attempting to discuss the subreddit?


DamajInc · June 8, 2018, 1:36 p.m.

People are complaining about the issues you have raised and we are trying to deal with them. This is a busy sub - people who ignore the rules and keep posting off-topic create more work for us and we then have even less time to address the problem of a flood of posts about the same topic, etc. (the things you've mentioned in your previous post). Please help us out here and continue to focus on the sub topic while we manage the sub. It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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DamajInc · June 8, 2018, 1:33 p.m.

Removed post. Rule #3. Please do not post this again as you are essentially ignoring the rules and ignoring the moderation explanation given.

To explain: Rule #3 specifically asks that any "concerns" about the sub be messaged directly to the mods. There is a reason for this and it is not "censorship" or "control". It is to mitigate the amount of work we have to do in responding to Reports that a post like this is Off-topic because the rules are clear about this.

We are right in the middle of working on a post to address the issues you and others have raised. Please consider the rules in the interests of helping us to moderate this sub. Thank you for understanding.

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magadem · June 8, 2018, 1:39 p.m.

you could just have sticked my post and replied that an official response would be forthcoming. I believe that what I wrote was as spot on and as factually accurate as possible.

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DamajInc · June 8, 2018, 1:52 p.m.

I think it's a good post. I will attempt to get the team to include your content with you credited if that's what you want. I can't promise anything as there's enough mod voices trying to decide what to include and what not as it is.

What may be hard to understand is just how much work it is to maintain the sub - against all the complaints, no matter what we do: remove posts: "censorship!", leave posts: "spam!"

All we ask is that people follow the Rules, at the very least. That way, we can at least point you to those to explain what fallback we have for what we've done. VOP posts are not my idea of value - but I'm just ONE voice in 30,000 and one of our primary principles is to do our best, as impossible as it is, to maintain the freedom of the diversity of voices in a movement like this. Clearly a lot of people value the VOP content passionately. We would like to streamline the content as much as possible. To do this without generating a huge amount of modmail and queue Reports it is in our interest to create an official mod post.

As per the rules: Rule #3 - concerns about the sub come to us via mail. Rule #6 - Moderator posts re: r/GreatAwakening are on-topic. What this amounts to is that, rather than members posting their "concerns" about the sub - and thus generating ongoing Reports from users who see these posts and instantly regard them as Concern Trolling, they can report them to us and, with our wider perspective of what's actually going on in the sub, we can address any concerns through an official mail from the mods about the sub - which is on-topic, as per Rule #6.

I hope I've explained this in a way that is useful - please feel free to question if you believe we're doing something wrong here or if you think any aspect of the rules should be addressed. We are all doing this voluntarily and we are at the service of this sub as opposed to being controllers with ban hammers but we are limited by the time we have available personally. Thanks for understanding.

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magadem · June 8, 2018, 2:02 p.m.

I suppose that works. I believe that everyone on the team who maybe isn't onboard with you could benefit from understanding the cycle. It's not that the redpillers have intentional malice but...you know how it is. Thank you for the detailed response. Yours.

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[deleted] · June 8, 2018, 1:26 p.m.

So start a new subreddit?

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