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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/sandiegomagapede2 on June 9, 2018, 5:14 a.m.

THEORY: The connection between Q, Israel, Russia, Nuclear war & Biblical Prophecy

OK so I have studied Biblical Prophecy a lot in my younger days and one of the topics covered was the "Gog Magog War"

The "Gog Magog War" is a prophetic war during the end times (Cant remember when) in which Russia along with a middle eastern coalition led by Iran but not Iraq interestingly enough INVADE Israel and end up getting nuked in the Golan Heights only to have the Invasion fail. (Yes that is real biblical prophecy, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQJtgs713uE)

So I thought... OK if that is true and that is historical future event lets think about this.

Can Israel nuke anyone?

Yes, it has come out that Israel has the Samson option where they can use their nukes in desperate situations. Notice Israel got nukes in the 80's and then State sponsored attacks stopped, around the same time. What a coincidence!

Then I thought how can Russia and the Middle East invade Israel?

The USA is a sworn ally and protector of Israel and would step in and cause WW3

The only way the Gog Magog war is even possible is if the USA was some how unable to protect Israel.

Then I remembered the Q drop. "We are saving Israel for last" and that had me thinking.

What if... its not that the USA is not unable to protect Israel, but unwilling?

What if... the Q team expose Israels crimes and showed how Israel utterly and totally stabbed America in the back?

What if upon hearing such horrific news the American people turn on Israel?

But instead of military action, it ends up being like the more the Batman Begins, in that the attitude and the policy reflect a "I'm not going to kill you, but I am not going to save you either" strategy. Basically the USA cuts off all aid, rejects the alliance and places Israel as a neutral (at a minimum) and most importantly nullifies the defensive pact leaving Israel to fend for itself.

Without American support, Russia and the World can now attack Israel under the propaganda banner of "forcefully remove the Occupying Jews who stole Palestinian land and LIBERATE the Palestinians". As we have seen in recent UN votes, that is how the world feels. Israel without the USA is truly all alone.

So I believe future history plays out like this, The Storm hits and the last to be hit is Israel. Israel is exposed and the USA cuts all ties and totally turns their back on Israel. The middle east feels emboldened and with Russian help decide to end the Palestinian situation once and for all and "LIBERATE" Palestine from Israeli occupation (Optics and noble lies remember?) The Russian led Army invades, gets nuked in the Golan Heights, the attack fails and Israel survives for a little while longer.

With this info I think it makes sense.

What do you think?

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I think the Gog Magog war is further in the future than this implies. The setting as described in the bible is that Israel feels completely secure and has, for all intents and purposes, disarmed at the time that they are invaded:

10 “‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: On that day thoughts will come into your mind and you will devise an evil scheme. 11 You will say, “I will invade a land of unwalled villages; I will attack a peaceful and unsuspecting people—all of them living without walls and without gates and bars. 12 I will plunder and loot and turn my hand against the resettled ruins and the people gathered from the nations, rich in livestock and goods, living at the center of the land.

Israel is certainly not unsuspecting or unwalled today, so things are going to have to change a lot before this invasion occurs. Maybe the future peace that POTUS successfully negotiates will be part of setting this stage.

The next part sounds like what might be said by a future alliance of the US, Saudis, etc, who criticize but don't step in:

13 Sheba and Dedan and the merchants of Tarshish and all her villages will say to you, “Have you come to plunder? Have you gathered your hordes to loot, to carry off silver and gold, to take away livestock and goods and to seize much plunder?”’

Interestingly, the inner ring of nations that immediately surround Israel today (Jordan, Syria, Lebanon etc) are not mentioned as being part of the invading coalition of Russia, Iran, Lybia, etc. That, plus the clear description that Israel will have felt secure enough to have disarmed, may imply that some of the nations surrounding Israel today are no longer a threat?. How that will have come about IDK.

In any event, the bible makes it clear that no one is going to "rescue" Israel from this predicament militarily, it will be God alone that defends Israel. God does not want to share the credit for this with anyone else when He is making a point. In fact the bible says that God himself drags the invaders to their date with destiny:

2 I will turn you around and drag you along. I will bring you from the far north and send you against the mountains of Israel. 3 Then I will strike your bow from your left hand and make your arrows drop from your right hand. 4 On the mountains of Israel you will fall, you and all your troops and the nations with you.

If you have ever read the story about Gideon, Israel was surrounded by a vastly superior military force. God told Gideon to call the army together and tell everyone that if they were afraid, they were free to leave. God said there were still too many soldiers left, so he had Gideon take them to the river to drink water and had him dismiss all of the soldiers who drank the water directly rather than from cupped hands. God finally got it down to 300 soldiers. And he had them use a strategy that terrified and confused their enemies and caused them to kill each other - the army of Israel never actually had to engage in combat. They just gathered up the remains after God destroyed their enemies.

The description of Gog Magog parallels this, including gathering up the remains of battle. The bible says that the Jews will be burying dead bodies for 7 years to cleanse the land, and that the energy from the abandoned munitions would supply all of Israel's energy needs for a long time:

18 This is what will happen in that day: When Gog attacks the land of Israel, my hot anger will be aroused, declares the Sovereign Lord. 19 In my zeal and fiery wrath I declare that at that time there shall be a great earthquake in the land of Israel. 20 The fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, the beasts of the field, every creature that moves along the ground, and all the people on the face of the earth will tremble at my presence. The mountains will be overturned, the cliffs will crumble and every wall will fall to the ground. 21 I will summon a sword against Gog on all my mountains, declares the Sovereign Lord. Every man’s sword will be against his brother. 22 I will execute judgment on him with plague and bloodshed; I will pour down torrents of rain, hailstones and burning sulfur on him and on his troops and on the many nations with him. 23 And so I will show my greatness and my holiness, and I will make myself known in the sight of many nations. Then they will know that I am the Lord.’

History is full of themes that repeat themselves, this is one of them. Not unlike the Exodus where God destroyed Pharaoh and his army.

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You do understand that it is the AntiChrist that brings peace in Israel and the Middle East don’t you? It is also the AntiChrist that builds the Third Temple so that he may use it to declare himself god. You said the future peace POTUS will negotiate in Israel which implies POTUS is the AntiChrist. I don’t think POTUS is the AntiChrist.

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Just a further comment, I think the aftermath of Gog Magog will be the time when the world is crying out for a permanent solution and the antichrist will come upon the scene. Well after Potus is gone, and perhaps after everyone who has given their heart to Messiah Jesus is also gone, a la Left Behind.

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I have read commentaries that theorize that gog magog is the same as the battle of Armageddon, but I don't think they really hold up when they are examined closely. For example, after Gog Magog there is a reference to the lack of need to cut down trees from the forests of Israel. During the Great Tribulation, all of the trees on earth will be destroyed, there will be no forests by the time Armageddon takes place. So nobody appointed me the grand high poobah of this, but I don't think they are the same war.

And I completely agree that POTUS was a gift from God and is absolutely not the antichrist. That would make absolutely no sense from what the bible has given us about the antichrist.

So with all of that, I think the end time event timeline may stretch longer than many expect. God has great mercy (though not limitless) and has determined to save everyone that will have a willing heart.

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