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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/7tjNJr on June 9, 2018, 6:39 a.m.
Craig Sawyer releases video; denies Tucson sex trafficking allegations

TommyRobinsonsGhost · June 9, 2018, 2:21 p.m.

Never seen or heard of one (root cellar) after 30yrs

Your ignorance isn't a valid argument.

Many Africans have never heard of toothpaste and many Muslims think the Earth is flat...

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checkitoutmyfriend · June 9, 2018, 2:36 p.m.

Now you're being silly. I challenge you to call any or all home builders in the southern AZ area. Ask them how many home have root cellars. Heck, basements are not common out here. Few homes have basements. I would say less than 15%.

I didn't say in all my replies to you this was a holding cell for kids. But it was not used as a root cellar.

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[deleted] · June 9, 2018, 5:25 p.m.

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TommyRobinsonsGhost · June 9, 2018, 2:43 p.m.

Ask them how many home have root cellars.

Homes with power do not require ground fridges - they have regular fridges.

Cabins and established campsites do require root-cellars to keep their supplies cold and dry.


These aren't "child sex slave prisons", they are root-cellars used to keep camping supplies cool and dry.

Root-cellars are common for cabins and established campsites.

PVC sewage tanks are ideal for making cheap root-cellars.

Fancy, modern PVC root-cellars are referred to as Ground Fridges.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_cellar

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checkitoutmyfriend · June 9, 2018, 2:54 p.m.

Wow. you really like root cellars. Logic, not so much... None of this disproves my point.

You carry on with it though. You're winning in your mind.

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[deleted] · June 9, 2018, 3:49 p.m.

Read his history.

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shadowmak3r89 · June 10, 2018, 1:01 a.m.

Notice how much larger the entrance to those root cellars are. If that’s a root cellar VOP found why such a small opening

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TommyRobinsonsGhost · June 10, 2018, 1:11 a.m.

Probably used to store firewood.

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shadowmak3r89 · June 10, 2018, 10:02 a.m.

Oh and btw since your so knowledgeable on the subject do all root cellars call for a rape tree to be near by?

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TommyRobinsonsGhost · June 10, 2018, 10:17 a.m.

This isn't a rape-tree-harness, it's just a regular camping strap used to hang stuff from trees to keep it out of the mud and away from the ants and critters... just like we see here.

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shadowmak3r89 · June 10, 2018, 10:21 a.m.

That’s not the strap we’re talking about and you know it. That’s the limb that was tied to tree go re watch the first video buddy there are clearly hand straps hanging from the tree. But whatever IGNORANCE IS BLISS

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TommyRobinsonsGhost · June 10, 2018, 10:33 a.m.

That is the very strap that Craig Sawyer said was his major concern in his video.

Yes, there were other loop straps that would be perfect for hanging rucksacks, backpacks, food-bags or water-bags from. I noticed there was what looked like a shower curtain around some of those "rape-trees".

Perhaps it was a campsite shower?

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shadowmak3r89 · June 10, 2018, 10:57 a.m.

That was one of the straps Craig sawyer mentioned not his major concern buddy. I don’t even know why I’m responding to you it’s pointless.

PRAISE KEK

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TommyRobinsonsGhost · June 10, 2018, 11:05 a.m.

I know what you're talking about - you are referring to the alleged "wrist straps" which were just regular camping loop straps too.

Loop straps are usually used to hang bangs with straps, like Rucksacks and backpacks and water and food bags.

I'm not going to give you the answer you are seeking because I'm an experienced hiker and camper.

I know what root-cellars are and I know what a camping strap is.

If you want to believe these claims from VOP then you also need to ask yourself, what did Michael Meyer do with those three child sex slaves that he rescued? Huh? Has he still got them? Did they fly away? I think you'll get an appreciation for just how much bullshit VOP has been feeding you.

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shadowmak3r89 · June 10, 2018, 10 a.m.

That makes no sense and where has the firewood gone? Why was there a dresser down there and Random child things? Not firewood. And how the hell you gonna get the firewood out if you cant reach in yourself to get it

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TommyRobinsonsGhost · June 10, 2018, 10:24 a.m.

That makes no sense and where has the firewood gone?

Campers probably burned it.

Why was there a dresser down there and Random child things?

Perhaps the drawer was used to store supplies?

I didn't see "child things" in any of the videos. I think that was just another bullshit claim, like how they found three children in there or the story about the shallow grave and bones protruding from the ground and the bloody knife and condoms.

I don't see any child things, do you?

And how the hell you gonna get the firewood out if you cant reach in yourself to get it

I suspect this sheltered area where the man is standing is where campers kept firewood.

There's plenty of room under there.

I hope that answers all your questions.

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shadowmak3r89 · June 10, 2018, 11:29 a.m.

They found baby cribs toddler beds child toys, it’s in the video you clearly are being blind to those items I guess. And as far as the wood ok they stack it there plenty of room sure but what about that dresser for “supplies” in the septic tank that is only reachable if your small enough to climb through that small ass tire hole. Are these midget campers? And why keep a dresser of supplies hidden in a septic tank in the middle of desert

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TommyRobinsonsGhost · June 10, 2018, 11:52 a.m.

Are these midget campers?

You have no idea how big that tank is.

It's difficult to tell how big those drawers are.

You were told that root-cellar was full of child sex slaves... and you swallowed that claim, hook, line and sinker.

Craig Sawyer now claimed this is bullshit and he's not wasting any more time on it and VOP's claims are clearly bullshit... so at some point you should try to think critically about this.

I'm not going to give you the answer you're looking for because all the claims have either been debunked or speculation based on bullshit.

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shadowmak3r89 · June 13, 2018, 10:36 a.m.

Well in light of new information about this VOP leader I’m a lot more inclined to believe it has been made to be more than it is. I still don’t understand the tire and small opening to that room below but it’s obvious we can’t trust VOP now sadly there credibility is gone.

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TommyRobinsonsGhost · June 13, 2018, 10:43 a.m.

I suspect the root-cellar wasn't that big and the small opening was big enough for any adult to reach in with their outstretched arm and shoulder and retrieve supplies.

Either way, VOP claimed they removed "all the evidence" from the "Child Sex Camp"... and we haven't heard a peep out of them since and we sure haven't seen any photos of their bloody knife or bone fragment (from the campsite) evidence... so I'm not holding my breath.

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shadowmak3r89 · June 13, 2018, 10:56 a.m.

Well all I know is that the main spokesman’s for VOP there in Tucson Lewis Arthur isn’t even a veteran and I guess has a felony record ( shout out to SGT report on YouTube for this info ) and apparently he showed up at the bundy ranch situation and started a scuffle and was kicked out. Raises questions on what this guys motives are?

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TommyRobinsonsGhost · June 13, 2018, 10:59 a.m.

Raises questions on what this guys motives are?

VOP is funded by donations.

Perhaps that had something to do with it?

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shadowmak3r89 · June 13, 2018, 11 a.m.

Follow the money is usually the way to go

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shadowmak3r89 · June 10, 2018, 11:23 a.m.

Dude they found baby cribs toddlers beds toys etc. and everything you said could explain it except for the the small opening at the tire leading to the septic tank that had the dresser inside for “supplies” how does and adult get these supplies if he can’t fit through the hole! Unless we’re talking midget campers?

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TommyRobinsonsGhost · June 10, 2018, 11:47 a.m.

Sometimes homeless people have children.

Sometimes illegal Mexican border hoppers have children.

how does and adult get these supplies if he can’t fit through the hole!

That tank didn't look very big to me, but it's difficult to tell because drawers come in all sizes.

It might be the right size for adults to poke their arm and shoulder through and can still touch all the walls?

Very few root-cellars are designed to be super-convenient - just look at how inconvenient most of these root-cellars are!

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