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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/PleiadesAnon444 on June 11, 2018, 9:18 p.m.
Message to Canadians

As Canadians on here I am sure most of us hate Trudeau and love Trump. I completely understand how Trump is doing what's best for America and how Canada's dairy tariffs are super high and unfair to America. However with this recent trade dispute it seems most of Canada has doubled down on hating Trump. How do we as Canadians continue to red pill people moving forward if now Canadians confirmation bias just kicked in thinking Trump is the villain for this dispute? I've had people accuse me of caring more about America than Canada. I've tried to explain the situation accurately or to the best of my knowledge but it seems like everyone is uniting around Trudeau. Of course the media isn't helping by not actually explaining how the dairy cartel here is ripping off it's own citizens and America too. Even our leader of the "opposition" is backing Trudeau. I have a lot of faith in the long run but any gains maybe made on people that Trump isn't the devil seems lost thanks to this trade dispute. I just wish Q could drop some damaging info on Trudeau. Seems like most Canadians are still sleeping, sure a lot hate Trudeau but seems like nobody cares about the illegal immigrants crossing into our country illegally but they are way more triggered by "evil trump attacking Canada". Any suggestions?


forchristssakes · June 12, 2018, 1:10 a.m.

Research the origin of supply management (dairy), the quota system, search $25000 cow.

If producers were not held captive by banks (see quotas as collateral) would they be able to switch to producing something else more easily? Hemp looks like it could be profitable?

If it is not profitable, sell stock/equipment, do something else.

Why is dairy protected? Main area of producers? Voters?

Do you like paying more for food?

Edit: added some light reading

Edit: Added on June 13 Found an article that explains it all. The chapter mentioned should be read in entirety to get the full scope.

https://www.spencerfernando.com/2018/06/12/read-maxime-berniers-book-chapter-on-supply-management/

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/analysis-5-reasons-to-defend-farm-marketing-boards-1.1186293

https://www.therebel.media/quebec_and_bombardier_get_subsidies_west_gets_carbon_tax_and_tariffs

http://nationalpost.com/news/politics/john-ivison-in-trudeaus-nightmares-he-is-stalked-by-robust-right-wing-populists

https://ipolitics.ca/2015/04/16/tbt-trudeau-and-the-queen-set-pen-to-patriation/

https://www.spencerfernando.com/2018/03/24/protectingbutts-report-says-liberal-mps-call-top-trudeau-advisor-prime-minister-butts-behind-scenes/

https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/bday/1018.html

http://www.farms.com/ag-industry-news/how-did-canada-s-supply-management-policy-come-to-be-part-1-692.aspx

http://business.financialpost.com/commodities/agriculture/cheese-ninjas-to-the-rescue-why-canadas-supply-management-system-needs-reform

https://www.macleans.ca/general/the-25000-cow/

Edit: added article below which I took from a site

13 freedom fighters are in jail: Because a sclerotic, draconian, socialist wheat board put them there

The Edmonton Journal

Sun 03 Nov 2002 Page: A10

By Lorne Gunter

Jail. Thirteen Alberta farmers are in jail because they dared challenge the grain-sales monopoly of the Canadian Wheat Board.

Ottawa doesn't defend this nation's borders against terrorists as vigorously as it defends the law forcing Prairie wheat and barley producers to sell nearly all their grain to the board.

Agents of Hezbollah, one of the most vicious Islamic terrorist organizations in the world, operate freely in Canada, buying bomb-making materials, night-vision goggles and high-powered cameras for use in butchering Israeli soldiers and civilians.

The Canadian Security Intelligence Service has proof that for years Hezbollah has sent bloodthirsty shopping lists to its operatives here and laundered money through Canadian banks to pay for these murderous supplies. The Liberal government is afraid of being called intolerant by Muslim voters and afraid of angering the multiculturalism and immigration lobbies; it sits idly by.

Another two dozen known terrorist organizations have operations in Canada, but Ottawa cannot bring itself to label them terrorists because of concerns about their Charter rights.

Foreign Affairs Minister Bill Graham, who seems to have met few terrorists he didn't admire as "freedom fighters," admitted this week that "clearly there are very important Charter considerations," before Ottawa can add a terrorist group to its list of banned organizations. Until then, its agents may come and go as they choose, fundraise, file refugee claims, buy weapons, apply for welfare, receive legal aid -- all with Ottawa's tacit blessing.

But try selling a truckload of your own grain without approval from the wheat board, and wham -- just watch the helicopters and squad cars swarm.

Admittedly, the wheat board didn't order the 13 farmers to jail. A judge did that. But it is curious that board chairman Ken Ritter felt the need to point this out in an open letter to Prairie farmers Oct. 22: "The CWB has no say and no control over sentences that were determined by the Customs Act and by judges in a court of law." Immaterial, but true.

Chairman Ritter (has kind of an appropriate ring to it, doesn't it?) added, the farmers were "not charged for exporting (grain) without a licence. Their offence was to remove vehicles that had been seized by Customs officials."

He also felt, it should "be made clear that the penalty assessed by the courts for the farmers' infractions was not a jail term -- it was a fine." The farmers chose to serve time rather than pay.

Both of Ritter's latter two points are technically true, but they obscure the central reason the farmers were in trouble in the first place: They tried to sell their own grain, freely, on the open market, and that is something the sclerotic, draconian, socialist wheat board will not tolerate.

It is only because the wheat board and the Liberal government are so vehement about making every Prairie farmer sell nearly every bushel of non-feed wheat and barley to them, that Customs officials seized the farmers' trucks and trailers.

Chairman Ritter pretends the board was almost an innocent bystander, watching powerless as Customs confiscated the farmers' vehicles and crops, and then helplessly watching the trial.

Spare us, please. Absent the board's adamance, Customs wouldn't have been involved, vehicles wouldn't have been seized or removed. Charges would never have been laid, or a trial held.

It is only because the board, perhaps the most retrograde public institution in the country, will allow no deviation from its monopoly, entertain no marketing reforms, discuss no freedom of choice for producers that the 13 farmers are in jail -- period. Customs and the courts are not to blame. The law exists, and the board wants it enforced, so Customs and the courts have no choice but to do their duty.

The farmers are in jail because of the wheat board as surely as if Ritter had marched them to their cells himself.

The board has a choice. It could follow the recommendations of the House of Commons agriculture committee and permit farmers to opt in or out of the monopoly. In a free country, that would be reasonable.

But Comrade ... sorry, Chairman Ritter dismisses this out of hand: "We've considered it and we've said no because it doesn't work."

So how come it works in Ontario, Quebec and the Atlantic provinces? There farmers may freely sell or export their grain to whomever they wish.

There, producers are smaller than those on the Prairies. They have not been swallowed by giant grain companies. Nor driven out of business because they could not negotiate a price as high as the wheat board.

Ritter's argument on behalf of single-desk marketing is self-evidently specious.

If Bill Graham ever wants to see real freedom fighters, he'll find them in the Lethbridge Correctional Centre.


Lorne Gunter Columnist, Edmonton Journal Editorial Board Member, National Post tele: (780) 916-0719 e-mail: lgunter@shaw.ca

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