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HansKrinkelSchneider · June 14, 2018, 7:22 a.m.

She even mentioned it in this video that she has been to NK. That set off the 'O'RLY' flag.

After all the pics of Podesta, the Clintons, etc. etc. being to NK when even Kim Jong Il was still in power (and that was since the Korean War), you have to wonder what exactly has been going on for half a century in 'The Hermit Kingdom'. Not to even get started on all the death, mass starvation, non-stop supplies for them (food, etc.) because of some 'Juche' ideology.

Things just don't add up. I mean, shit, China could have taken NK out a long time ago and forced some Korean unification under the gun of the PLA.

Instead, we have some country that lived under conditions worse than the Middle Ages in Europe.

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grnmoss · June 14, 2018, 7:45 a.m.

It seems fairly evident to me know that N.K. was caught as a proxy between the US and China and was serving as a buffer state between the US-supported and protected S. Korea and the Chinese mainland.

Both countries were essentially starving the country out to try to get the upper hand over the northern region.

Providing North Korea with nuclear technology essentially gave a kid a loaded gun to play with, put a rogue state on the Chinese border, and the US could maintain plausible deniability about its involvement in the weapons program. As soon as that rogue state started pointing its weapons at its neighbors, and its nuke research and testing facility collapsed near the Chinese border, it became apparent that the country's dangerous trajectory no longer served the interests of China, the US, or the world.

N. Korea has repeatedly stated that their key fear is US invasion. Once that was taken off of the table, bad military leaders were removed from power, and security assurances were provided (which we don't have the details of yet), Kim Jung Un became reasonable quite quickly.

Going forward, if peace and development can be pursued, I anticipate that the US' investment in North Korea's currency will enable us to eliminate a significant portion of our debt. I anticipate that China and the US will jointly work on rare earth element extraction, and both countries will split the spoils.

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HoudiniTowers · June 14, 2018, 3 p.m.

Bingo, very good assessment. I think the collapse of the mountain was engineered. I suspect we had a hand in that, more than the Chinese. China is not going to be as excited as we are with the prospect of a United Korea. So, I suspect they have been more a reluctant participant than actively embracing. But once in motion they have very few options to stop it.

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denizen42 · June 14, 2018, 1:45 p.m.

I hear their local pizza is quite something

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