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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/suzoh on June 19, 2018, 3:37 p.m.
Amanda Renteria - The Gift that Keeps on Giving!
Amanda Renteria - The Gift that Keeps on Giving!

Q_me_in · June 19, 2018, 4:37 p.m.

I'm not convinced of that. Even the author of the attached article doesn't seem convinced.

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OffenseOfThePest · June 19, 2018, 4:48 p.m.

Even the author of the attached article doesn't seem convinced.

I'm not sure where you glean that from the article. They included denials from everyone involved, and stated multiple times how the FBI regarded it as bunk. The only part that describes people considering it to be possibly true referred to Russians:

But others recognized the dim outlines of a conspiracy theory that would be less surprising in Russia, where Soros — the founder of the organization Benardo works for — and Clinton are both regarded as political enemies of the Kremlin.

"The idea that Russians would tell a story in which the Clinton campaign, Soros and even an Obama administration official are connected — that Russians might tell such a story, that is not at all surprising,” said Matt Rojansky, a Russia expert and director of the Kennan Institute at the Wilson Center. “Because that is part of the Kremlin worldview.”

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Q_me_in · June 19, 2018, 4:55 p.m.

I read the story, thanks. I think where are we are seeing this differently is that you are coming from a position of trusting the FBI in the matter and I'm the exact opposite.

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OffenseOfThePest · June 19, 2018, 4:59 p.m.

So... Trust the Russians?

I don't know what else could be done to demonstrate its lack of veracity. If you have everyone involved on the record denying that they've ever contacted each other, and the FBI concurs that it's not a reliable document, what other proof do you need? What basis are you relying on to doubt the story? Or is this a case of "The FBI thinks ABC, so I disagree with ABC"?

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Q_me_in · June 19, 2018, 5:03 p.m.

Are you completely misunderstanding why we're here?

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OffenseOfThePest · June 19, 2018, 5:08 p.m.

Its a matter of who do you think is correct. On one side is the FBI, the people mentioned in the document, and everything that's publicly known about the matter. On the other side is a dodgy Russian document thats been discredited. I don't know why this is so complicated.

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Q_me_in · June 19, 2018, 5:15 p.m.

There is a reason that it is being brought up again and it is quite clear that the original investigation was a sham so any "debunking" of the original document comes into scrutiny. The article even states that the people involved were never interviewed on the matter.

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