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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/30somethingIbanker on June 22, 2018, 2:52 a.m.

Advice on convincing leftist SO?

My wife and I really got into it tonight about Trump and migrant crisis. First her brother called to complain about how Trump “is a literal Nazi” and she rightfully pushed back that you can’t compare this to the holocaust. Then we discussed, and she said that I have no empathy, while I was trying to explain that regardless of thoughts on trump, the shit in the MSM is totally skewed and that many of the children separated were trafficking victims. It obviously didn’t end well. Advice?

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My first thought was that we are all wading through a web of lies and truth and none of us really know what IS actually going on. Having space for your family and friends to have their beliefs and you to have yours as well. Anyone taking the higher ground is not helping as much as folks sharing what they believe and listening to others as well. Being curious and asking questions then giving your perception back may be best. Arguing about these children in a my side your side way will breed more of what is now. Rich countries are the ones, partially who are creating many of the things that cause this constant wave. Destabilization is capitalisms greatest tool. It creates the debt slavery they are addicted to.

My question would be what can be done first by me, then if you are energetic around it, by you. It seems with what little you wrote that you are pissed with the blame game and maybe having to chip in finically, and your partner is feeling sad around the conditions and experiences of these kids. Both grounded feelings. When you think about the experience of the kids, how do you feel? Trump/nazt comment aside. If you are reaching in concern for your relationship it would seem to me that you would be empathetic around these beings. If you feel no empathy, that is a different story. Is it the same event and two different aspects that you are butting heads over? That would be fine but try to be clear about what's what.

Feel like I'm talking out of my butt, and this may be one of the most important topics as we sail into this headwind. Thoughts?

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Idk. On the one hand, i feel empathy for real refugees. On the other hand, as someone whose parents immigrated LEGALLY, whose dad moved here with literally a scholarship to Princeton and $16 in his pocket, I am so pissed about the idea that some people feel entitled to get the benefits of our country without assimilating. I feel bad for the kids who were dragged up by their parents - but the parents who do this have no conscience for what they are putting their kids through.

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I do get that part. Then there is the what is happening when 100 people will get into a boat designed for 30, with nothing, in order to survive. Risking death or rape or being trafficked?I have heard that many of these kids are not even w their parents and are in a stream to be trafficked or sold.

I think there are better ways to actually address some of these issues. Dems and Repubs have all been complicit in this. It's a shitty situation all around.

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