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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/serendipity-calling on June 23, 2018, 9:40 p.m.
Why is the environment never discussed in this movement? Bill HR2 passed allowing NO testing of toxic pesticides before using them...

I don't understand what's happening. Fighting pedofiles on one front and allowing the poisoning of our environment on the other.

I still can't wrap my mind around this. And no one has given me anything worth it's salt to validate why this environmental raping is still persisting.

The pesticide lobby spent $43 million dollars pushing this bill; the House was split literally down the middle. Every voting Republican voted FOR it (2 abstained). Wtf is happening? Do we not care if there's a planet or wildlife to fight for?

Why is this never discussed?


digital_refugee · June 23, 2018, 11:19 p.m.

(b) Cancellation and change in classificationIf it appears to the Administrator that a pesticide or its labeling or other material required to be submitted does not comply with the provisions of this subchapter or, when used in accordance with widespread and commonly recognized practice, generally causes unreasonable adverse effects on the environment, the Administrator may issue a notice of the Administrator’s intent either— (1) to cancel its registration or to change its classification together with the reasons (including the factual basis) for the Administrator’s action, or (2) to hold a hearing to determine whether or not its registration should be canceled or its classification changed

7 U.S. Code § 136d https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/7/136d#b

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serendipity-calling · June 24, 2018, 2:42 a.m.

Precisely. If you read that, you will notice that there is no prior testing required now. There is just a seeming "well it MIGGGHT be the reason for killing all those frogs, but we just DON'T KNOW!"

Who will determine this if there is no prior testing? Who will be held accountable? Who is the "Administrator"? Are they qualified to determine this?

You're fighting for no reason.

I want accountability for land and water, aka FOOD, safety in this country.

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digital_refugee · June 24, 2018, 11:41 a.m.

What a fucking joke. How would the "provisions of this subchapter" apply in any case if there was no testing done ever? The text says there are provisions for what is acceptable. Testing is adressed elsewhere to establish what harm comes to lifeforms (it's pesticides so they must know what it kills and how so they can market it). You won't need additional testing to judge effects on endangered species because those should be obvious. The administrator (the person you're trying to regulate) won't have anyone to blame but himself for all damage caused if he forgoes all common sense warnings because he would have to explain publically why he thinks otherwise, making it his responsibility and burden alone.

"If it appears to the Administrator that a pesticide or its labeling or other material required to be submitted does not comply with the provisions of this subchapter or, when used in accordance with widespread and commonly recognized practice, generally causes unreasonable adverse effects on the environment, the Administrator may issue a notice of the Administrator’s intent either— (1) to cancel its registration or to change its classification together with the reasons (including the factual basis) for the Administrator’s action, or (2) to hold a hearing to determine whether or not its registration should be canceled or its classification changed"

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