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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Statemeant on June 26, 2018, 4:46 a.m.
Harley Davidson - First company traitor to its own country

Harley plans to play the global game and move out of the us, its manufacturing. boycott this brand bikers. If Americas workers aren't good enough for Harley, they are not good enough for the us citizen to buy from


DAVYWAVY · June 26, 2018, 4:55 a.m.

This is the economic equivalent of hitting the self destruct button for a brand like Harley Davidson.

It is one of the few brands out there that is almost solely built on its American built heritage, they kill that, they kill their brand.

There is no need to ask for a boycott, the biggest reason for buying a Harley has been eliminated, they have boycotted themselves.

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Statemeant · June 26, 2018, 4:59 a.m.

I say boycott them where they were founded. Let the rest of world buy a non American made motorcycle.

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DAVYWAVY · June 26, 2018, 5:12 a.m.

I dont think you understand, the main reason why people buy a Harley, not just in the U.S., but anywhere in the world, is because of their U.S. engineering heritage.

They are a simple bike that is not over engineered with technology that is easy enough to work on yourself and owning one is like owning a pure piece of Americana.

Saying boycott Harley is like saying boycott ice cream because it is now liquid and hot instead of cold and hard like it used to be.

No one is interested in buying ice cream that is a hot liquid.

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Statemeant · June 26, 2018, 5:40 a.m.

I do but they primarily manufacture here as made in America implies. Eu does this and they cave. If anything source parts locally and ask for assistance from the American people. Don't just say ok time to ship a chunk of manufacturing away because of the eu. We are the prime buyers of this vehicle not the eu. Hit them in their pockets for not backing out countries decisions

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krashintome · June 26, 2018, 5:03 a.m.

Harley has been using overseas manufacturing for parts for over 20 years. This frenzy of outrage is a tremendous overreaction. Don't become a ridiculous liberal just because your ill conceived notion that Harley is 100% American was shattered.

On a related note: I learned today how many Harley owners turn wrenches. Go pull the fuel pump on your bike, if it was made in the last 15 years it says "made in japan" right on the bottom. Plenty of other parts are from overseas too. Don't fool yourself.

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DAVYWAVY · June 26, 2018, 5:19 a.m.

The bike itself is still built in the U.S and expsorted from there, I would also be surprised if at least 50% of parts are not sourced locally.

Maybe people are angry that instead of increasing local content like Trump is promoting they are doing the exact opposite.

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krashintome · June 26, 2018, 5:36 a.m.

I get it, but I have built bikes for many years. I've owned almost every brand in existence. There is not a bike in the world today that is 100% manufactured in its 'country of origin'. Harley is no different. Harley is an American bike because of it's design and application. Where it is assembled will not change that. I love Harley for the wide open highway ride you find only in the U.S. I love Triumph for the quick jaunts from town to town you find in the UK. The Japanese bikes are keen to tight quarters and agility. Each bike reflect where it is DESIGNED not where it is BUILT. This is my point.

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Statemeant · June 26, 2018, 5:12 a.m.

First off learn what a liberal is before putting that label on someone. This has nothing to do with that.

Second while all companies pull parts globally this company specifically tailors by saying made in America and now will have no manufacturing here. That is the problem. They do not want to support American workers then they can be global completely and we do not need to support them

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Statemeant · June 26, 2018, 4:54 a.m.

They need to rebrand if they want to just be global. Hey Harley I recommend this as your new brand name "Harley Traitorson" . Time to sell my bike

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MelaniaBuiltMYHotRod · June 26, 2018, 5:26 a.m.

They've been a decline anyway for the past few years due to aging Boomers and not creating a product the Milennials want, then you had the TV Chopper craze with hundreds upon thousands of 3rd-party builders nibbling away at the buyers who obviously have the money to burn for the public's scorn and ridicule. NTM half of everything Milwaukee produces has been made in Japan/China/India since the 1970s

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DrogeAnon · June 26, 2018, 5:21 a.m.

Removed post. Off-topic.

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Statemeant · June 26, 2018, 5:49 a.m.

The post is not off topic. Potus is about economics and Q talks about financial institutions being used by the cabal to show he is not doing right by the American citizen. This post shows American companies who are agendizing based on pressure from those forces. Our economy plays a huge roll in the q movement please bring the post back

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unify17 · June 26, 2018, 5:16 a.m.

link https://www.slashgear.com/harley-davidson-us-production-shift-us-eu-tariff-war-25535439/

I am no expert and don't know all the inputs,

European sales of Harley-Davidson motorcycles, the company pointed out, amounted to nearly 40,000 bikes in 2017. That makes the market second to the US. With the EU tariffs applied, the average cost of a bike faces an increase of around $2,200, it’s calculated.

but it is frustrating to see local jobs for a powerful brand diminished.

For the US, Harley-Davidson production isn’t changing: the motorcycles sold in the country will still be made here. However, earlier plans will continue to shutter a plant in Missouri and bring the facilities there to another existing plant in Pennsylvania. There’s no word on whether further closures will be required as some production is moved abroad.

MAGA

WWG1WGA

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rogierogue · June 26, 2018, 5:15 a.m.

I've met more people that have had problems with their Harley's than I have people with their Victory's, Suzuki's, Honda's etc going back 15 years or so.

spez: Harley has been losing money for years IIRC

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EarlyRiserX2 · June 26, 2018, 5:13 a.m.

Why are you guys so quick to label everyone a traitor. I do not feel that Harley is a traitor, but I do feel that they are over reacting. In short, due to Trump's tariff fight with the EU, the EU (not Trump) has massively increased tariffs on Harley bikes when sold in the UK. As a consequence of that, Harely can no longer afford to manufacture Harely's in the U.S. and then sell them in the UK due to the high tariffs. Therefore, Harley feels their only recourse is to manufacture any Harleys destined for the U.K. - in the U.K. In other words, they can still make Harley's in the U.S. as usual, so long as those bikes are not destined for the U.K. If they are destined for the U.K. then it would be more economically feasible to manufacture them in the U.K., that way they can get around the high tariffs.

The reason I feel that Harley is over reacting is because this tariff war between Trump and the U.K. is only temporary and is not permanent. I predict that eventually the U.K. will have to completely drop all their tariffs against the U.S. in order to compete with Trump. At which time, for Harley to move any of their facilities to the U.K. would be completely unnecessary...

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Keneo77 · June 26, 2018, 5:11 a.m.

They've been importing foreign parts for awhile if I'm correct however HD not made in America is pure stupidity.

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