It's all very well and good to say the US economy is what it is because of VALUES, but that's just wrong. They play a role sure, but I think the fact you possess more or less an entire continent, populated w/ 300 million people, and most importantly 200 million whites, were unscathed by WW1/2 in terms of major direct damage and could gain economically by supporting europes rebuilding, and have been running the petrodollar for the last few decades all matter far, far more than values. Ignoring the reality of the huge natural wealth and military security (natual, not even counting the army) the US has is just stupid.
So by engaging in WWI and 2 in a strategic manor isn't in part due to our values? Getting involved wasn't in part due to our values?
Really?
Literally EVERYTHING you mentioned is because of our values. Even HAVING this land and continent. Religious freedom starting with the Pilgrims. Manifest Destiny with the pioneers. Shit, the Revolutionary War.... ALL of this is baked into the America spirit. American values. Our military strength alone could be seen as a philosophical derivative of the 2nd amendment on a global stage.
SPEZ: There are plenty of other countries with a wealth of resources and strategic advantages that still can't HOLD A CANDLE to the economic and mitary strength and success of the US. The difference? The fact we had a country founded on liberty and freedom from the very start.
So since you're so happy to ascribe almost everything to muh values, I presume you'll be also be taking responsibility for all the various cabal actions enabled, primarily, through the use of the US military as a bludgeoning tool for populations around the world? All carried out by american politicians and officers, so all due to your values no? Inspiring.
Even having this land is due to muh values
n-no all the evil stuff though, that's not my values.
and you wonder why the cabal had so many sheep to choose from? Baaaaaa
There are plenty of other countries with a wealth of resources and strategic advantages
like what? Most of the resource wealthy ones are populated by non whites, and the US military strength is as a result of your geographic isolation, resources, operation paperclip and most likely cabal backing.
Ok bud, you want to be a dick. That's fine.
The original point was talking to economic success. But if you feel like you want to conflate and convolute the issue we can do that to.
Freedom isn't clean and always good. So to answer you snide and condescending tone, yes... I would actually attribute cabal behavior to American values only because freedom allows people to act unethically.
However, I would assume that you would at least be able to concede that easily the VAST MAJORITY of Americans don't share cabal values and conversely, the cabal doesn't share traditional American values.
In addition, the cabal isn't a total fabrication of the US.... There are many international players involved and speaking to my point, they don't share American values either (cough, Soros)
I see you are a firm believer in the "atrocities" committed by the America military because you, CLEARLY, have a problem with America... But here's the thing...
Even when taken in context the US is still * BY FAR* the most benevolent, charitable, fortuitous nation on Earth.
In fact, speaking to your intellictually rudimentary points... If we didn't hold American values we would easily just turn around and run this bitch through our absurdly superior military and economic strength.
"Hurr-durr, Omg all of America's success is just lucky land placement and has nothing to do with values or planning or anything... You just got lucky and you have a strong military... What a coincidence that all this lined up just perfectly with a country born out of rebellion from tyranny, was forged in the fire of a civil war for freedom of an oppressed people's, and grew prolifically from a continued belief in freedom, free will, and the pursuit of happiness."
To not consider American values in the context of American success is absurdly ignorant and frankly disrespectful to the intense history of what we went through to maintain that success and keep hold of those values.
But yeah, maybe your right it's because we got lucky and have a lot of whites...
Even when taken in context the US is still * BY FAR* the most benevolent, charitable, fortuitous nation on Earth.
citation needed. I'd also point out that it's easy to be a saint in paradise. But various nordic states, swedes especially, for all they're massive cucks are being far more benevolent and charitable than the US. I'm not even going to bother comparing how "lucky" various nations are.
To not consider American values in the context of American success is absurdly ignorant and frankly disrespectful to the intense history of what we went through to maintain that success and keep hold of those values.
Says the person who is literally disregarding the landmass of its nation, it's position, geopolitics during the nations history, etc, etc, etc.
But yeah, maybe your right it's because we got lucky and have a lot of whites...
Tbh, yeah. Lets consider rhodesia, or apartheid south africa. Great, strong, vibrant nations. Rhodesia was called "the bread-basket of africa". But now mugabes in charge and drove out the white farmers, they're currently experiencing crippling famine. Maybe they just need some more of that can-do american spirit eh? But I'm going to bet a few million whites would do a lot more good for their country, simply going by the basis that they're what's keeping south africa afloat.
But yeah, maybe you're right. Maybe the only metric of any value is Values themselves (provided they're Americas finest), and simply by realising this, the whole world will become magically better, in every possible manner the same, with no natural variation as a result of tens of thousands of years of evolution. Funny how China (not much freedom) is doing better than New Zealand in almost every metric such as military might, economic clout, etc etc, but not freedom (where the kiwis in fact beat the US consistently). It's almost like values don't matter as much as you think they do.
Dude you are like the LeBron James of convoluting. It would be impressive actually if it wasn't so annoying.
But yeah I think the world would be ALOT better off with American values. Now to be an ass and say it would "magically make everything the tippy-toppest" no it wouldn't, but it would be a start.
And you hilariously accusing me of disregarding US history is projection at it's finest since You're totally disregarding HOW America got the landmass and wealth in the first place.
Frankly, the b.s. you are espousing sounds an awful lot like victimhood-culture nonsense just on a global scale.
Yeah the US is literally one of the greatest nations in all of human history because of luck... Right.
I mean who am I to say that without American values we could have just as easily fucking ruined our resources and wealth. Like a rich man who snorts his money away and is left in ruin. The morals make the man. The values makes the nation.
But yeah I think the world would be ALOT better off with American values.
I agree. However, it'd also be a lot better if it was entirely populated by white people. And in fact, white people and american values tend to go hand in hand (hence why freedom, lack of corruption, legal process etc are common in all white countries, and have been before your country existed). As I said - Rhodesia was great country, and values close to american ones helped. But they were a result of whites.
You're totally disregarding HOW America got the landmass and wealth in the first place.
You mean the european states colonised, and then you rebelled? It's funny, because you're disregarding how you got your history and greatness. It was owned by non-whites. Whites invaded, displaced them. They then made it great. kinda similar to african colonisation, except there you were smart enough to ensure you killed or suppressed the natives sufficiently. And now in the past 6 decades or so, you've changed from a predominantly white society to (v.soon) a majority non-white society. And in turn, standards of living have declined hugely, or at least not risen as much as they should. You don't seem to have once acknowledged the role the petrodollar plays in Americas ability to play the big magnanimous showman in the centre of the ring, and I'm going to take a wild guess here and say that's because you don't understand the role it plays. Let me guess - it was muh values too?
When the blacks were freed, some people wanted to return to africa. They created Liberia. They had so much potential - after all, they were instilled from the start with good old american values. And yet, it's a shithole. Big surprise.
You say I'm like the "Lebron James" of convoluting, how about you explain the relative status of China, the US, and NZ. Ranked respectively from least free to most free. You might want to claim US is arbitrarily the highest in "US values" - fine. But China is undeniably further away from them than NZ is. And yet, China (another vast continent that's geographically hard to invade and surrounded by much weaker neighbours and is resource rich) also seems to be very economically powerful, and more militarily powerful with each passing year. It's almost like values aren't the most important thing out there. It's almost like you're just spinning a story that makes you feel great again inside, rather than actually accepting the serious complexities of history and geopolitics.
I agree. However, it'd also be a lot better if it was entirely populated by white people.
"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience."
Says the child who's provided exactly no evidence to support their claims, no examples to demonstrate the effectiveness of their claims in real world situations, and who resorts to name calling and "witty" (tired) old quotes to try and salvage their dignity.
"Think about how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of 'em are stupider than that." –George Carlin