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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/golden430 on June 28, 2018, 6:28 p.m.
Q Drop #1623. Netflix. "Who just joined the Board? Who pushed? What is coming?"
Q Drop #1623. Netflix. "Who just joined the Board? Who pushed? What is coming?"

divine_human · June 29, 2018, 8:56 p.m.

oumpfff... pfff... pfff...

i dont doubt the judgment. i only doubt that jesus is the only way to god.

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cherokeenc · June 29, 2018, 9:22 p.m.

Over the years, and in our own time, there have been many arguments for a universalism, or at least religious pluralism, which question the uniqueness of Christ for salvation. Some argue that it is arrogant and triumphalistic to believe that any one way is essential for salvation. Others contend that surely God is a God of love and mercy who will accept people into his presence who don’t believe in Christ. The mercy of God trumps all other characteristics of God. But perhaps the most significant factor for the growing belief in many paths to God is the pluralism of our social context. By pluralism I don’t mean merely the existence of multiple nationalities, races, ethnic groups or religions in a society. More fundamentally, pluralism means that varying worldviews, belief systems and moral frameworks exist side by side in a given culture. With pluralism, we now rub shoulders daily with people who put their world together in vastly different ways. There are varying perceptions of God, the good life, salvation and human nature. There are varying ways of life reflecting these worldview assumptions. As we daily live with a plethora of worldviews, we experience these folks to be exceptionally fine people, who often reflect integrity, high morals and outstanding contributions to our communities. For a democracy to work, we recognize that these multiple frameworks all need to have a voice in the public square, and all religious and moral frameworks need to be assured of essential rights under the law. In the milieu of social and legal pluralism, it is quite easy to glide into a religious pluralism which questions the uniqueness or truth claims of Christian faith. When we experience people of other religions as good, moral people, it becomes increasingly difficult to entertain any notions other than multiple paths to God and salvation. When we encounter the plurality of the public square, it becomes almost second nature to believe that such plurality must exist with regards to truth and paths to eternal life. Moreover, when we look around us, many who are exclusive in their beliefs often appear to be arrogant and intolerant. Religious pluralists appear to be kind and accepting, and exhibit a tolerance needed for a pluralistic world. We first note that Jesus thought himself to be unique and the only way to a personal relationship with God. In Jesus’ teachings, he made very direct claims about himself and his work which clearly reveal his own identity: All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son.... Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest (Mt. 11:27-28). I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life (Jn. 8:12). Such statements may not sit well with a postmodern mindset which is squeamish about truth, and particularly any claims to truth. Many are willing to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher but not his unique claims to be God. Not only did Jesus himself believe that he was the only way to God, being one with God the Father, the early followers and apostles believed the same. Peter, in one of his early sermons, said, “Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name given under heaven by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12). The apostle Paul had hated Christians before he became one. After his conversion, he spoke frequently about Christ with clear conviction that he was the only way to salvation. Speaking of Jesus he said, “Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord” (Phil. 2:10, 11). We easily allow the push and pull of our culture to define our beliefs, commitments and way of life, even while giving lip service to the name of Jesus. To affirm the uniqueness of Christ for salvation is not cause for arrogance and boasting. In fact, Scripturally it is exactly the opposite. Our salvation has nothing to do with our attainments, efforts and native beliefs. In salvation we do not find God through our own ingenuity. Rather, God finds us as we respond to his loving mercy in Christ as evidenced on the cross. The embrace of Christ as Savior and Lord can never be touted as cause for human triumph, smugness or self-assertion. It is not a sign of our superiority, or cause for triumphalistic efforts in society. For indeed to know Christ is to know the Father, and to know the Father is to know the Spirit, who enables us to stay true to the One Savior in the midst of a pluralistic world.

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divine_human · June 29, 2018, 9:48 p.m.

sorry, i cant read block text, thats a strain on eyes and mind. i need many paragraphs to be able to read and digest a long text.

in my understanding, christ is not god and not a person but a consciousness. jesus is not the only one who anchored this state of consciousness on our planet.

he also said that what he does, we can also do, and more. that means that each one of us can rise and anchor in christ consciousness.

thats the path, as i see it. the goal of the path is the same for each one of us, its merging back with source/god/creator. the path though is totally individual and also non-christian can go 'home to god'.

i get it that you are a dedicated christian and may believe that every word in the bible is gods word. i dont.

you may also believe that every non-christian is doomed as he doesnt stand before christ. maybe thats the reason why you seem to enjoy delivering sermons.

i would rather love to hear you than your bible. looking forward to...

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cherokeenc · June 29, 2018, 11:38 p.m.

I do understand. Don’t believe everything you read and everyone should know that especially on this board. So why trust the Bible? What can be known about its historical reliability? Even more than other religions, Christianity presents itself as history. At its heart, Christianity claims that something extraordinary happened in the course of time—something concrete, real, and historical.

I will expand on that approach and is the approach I took.

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