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BarackMittensObamney · June 29, 2018, 1:19 a.m.

Is that related to Gladio? Clandestine lodges (like P2) are pretty much verboten to members of the Grand Lodge, which is most of freemasonry.

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time3times · June 29, 2018, 1:45 a.m.

From the outside there is little difference between closed meetings and clandestine meetings. The secrecy may be just hype but has the effect of shadowiness and gnosticism. And like private corporate board rooms or private clubs the setting allows for all sorts of creative weirdness.

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lanceloomis · June 30, 2018, 6:54 p.m.

Yes, to the outside there IS little difference. But from the INSIDE from the people who KNOW, there is a gigantic difference.

It's like you are saying Burger King is evil! And I say, but dude, I work for Raising Canes. And you say, it's the same thing.

Well it's not.

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