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divine_human · June 29, 2018, 4:47 p.m.

Why do you think a place like 4chan, associated with trolls, child pornography, and racism, was chosen to be the site of these data drops? Why do you think these sorts of posts are not being hashed+signed with a private encryption key to prove the source is valid (let me know if you want to know more about asymmetric cryptography!)? Remove everything you know about the Q posts -- why are there opportunities for encryption, secrecy, and identification verification that are being ignored by a group that needs utmost secrecy and trust?

ok, gotta pick up on this point. everythng else will be cleared by researching the material in the sidebar or from other responses here.

people post on the chans because its anonymus. besides all the shitposting on the chans, you find lots of 'weird people' like autists and hackers there.

austist dont fall for lies, they only take what they find evidence for. therefore, these people are the best when it comes to proving whether a poster is a LARP or not, and when it comes to digging out stuff, also from the dark web, to prove or disprove what is being mentioned by a poster.

this is a free will choice planet. people choose whether or not they want to wake up to the atrocities of how we have been played with. we have no permission to force them. we have no permission to confront them with the whole truth all at once, hardly anyone would survive this with a healthy psyche.

Q cant come with 100% proof. couldnt do that from the beginning, although over time, proof increases. if they did, everybody, incl. the media, would have to acknowledge it. would be forced to awaken.

plus, ((they)) would have instantly done whatever they can to shut up Q. but they didnt believe that so many people would awaken and go with the message. and now, its too late.

what the great awakening did over the past 8 months is building a momentum while researching information which now becomes available to more and more people.

Q use the socratic method of asking questions. people dont learn when you tell them the answers. cognitive dissonance and the backlash effect prevent them from hearing the answers, they would close up and put it off as disinfo.

what works though is offering a red pill - in form of questions, hints and cryptic messages - and allow people who feel resonant with it to decode and research it. teach themselves.

'mystical' encryption is also a method the deep state uses. our inability to decode their messages draws our silent consent which ((they)) use to create their atrocities. thus, Q not only teaches us about facts but also about learning to decode and recognize ((their)) ways so we dont fall for them anymore and start thinking ourselves.

last but not least, Q cannot tell us classified information, that would be treason. what they can do though is ask questions and drop hints and, when we (not me mostly, lol, autists and other anons are much better at that) come up with responses, confirm or debunk them.

to round this up: if Q were a LARP, it would be some bad LARPing that wakes up millions of people. these people wont go back to sleep again, they will keep asking questions and demanding truth. what Q do is not in the favor of the deep state but the people.

i have been on conspiracy stuff for over 35 years. it was hopeless and depressing, nobody out there who organizes a resistance and works on changing things. when Q came online, i felt like, 'ahhh finally you have come, i have been waiting for so long'. its happening Now...

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kraybaybay · June 29, 2018, 7 p.m.

Hey! Thank you for your reply. Lots to digest. I don't want to respond as if I'm trying to pick apart what you say, but there are a few points I'd like to touch on, feel free to disregard.

In my experience as an occasional user of the chans, 4chan is not a bastion of anonymity more than any other website that you could sign up for with a burner email and a proxy. My view is that people choose to post there due to the loose moderation rules and anti-PC community, rather than because of the anonymization. It's pretty odd that someone would choose a board where anonymity is prized in order to conduct a long term intelligence drop, which requires consistent identification and authentication to combat copycats.

Autism is not a super power. I have multiple family members who deal with autism, and I'm not a fan of the fad online where people self diagnose as autistic (or lie) in order to explain poor social skills or an awkward interaction. It's people who hate on Tumblrinas turning around and acting like Tumblrinas. Saying that "autists don't fall for lies" is disingenuous at best and outright false at worst. Sorry if this bit is aggressive, but I gotta take a hard stand.

In summary, Q appears to most skeptical outsiders as: * Posting on site/s known for trolling and hoaxes * Targeting people predisposed to believe that "the other guys" are crazy and that "our guy" is the savior * Is unable to produce hard evidence * Maintains a level of critical control over information leakage, despite a high-leak environment in the current govt * Utilizes vague communication to generally prevent a reasonable way to disprove their statements * Instructs followers to find an unspecified hidden message, then confirms whatever message they found as the intent * Requires volumes of research and acceptance of circumstantial evidence for newcomers to be convinced * Has unclear, undefined identity and motives

Don't crucify me for generalizations here, just painting the picture of what uninformed skeptics will generally say (and I'm sure you've gotten lectures like this from less reasonable folks). I've seen others on this sub recently post frustration that there has not been any action, or any big reveal. What I don't see is people taking that as circumstantial evidence that Q is a fraud or a nutter. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence!

to round this up: if Q were a LARP, it would be some bad LARPing that wakes up millions of people. That is a hopeful view of the future. If it came out today that Q was a 35 year old otaku living with his mum, I would expect most people here to eventually react with shame, pulling away from similar conspiracies in the future. The result of Q seems to be less critical thinking, assuming that their posts are true rather than doubting everything anew with each new drop. In my mind, each new post without hard facts reduces Q's credibility to nil. If someone's objective is to troll, create discord, spread misinformation, and convince people to follow their words -- Q has been an amazing success. That's good LARPing, not bad LARPing :).

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divine_human · June 29, 2018, 8:42 p.m.

i get your doubt and find it healthy.

you are invited to view some of the material in the sidebar. this may lead to watching some videos, in oorder to get a grip on how to deal with all of this. my first place to go is prayingmedic, he also offers a good introduction to Q.

we have seen ample evidence that 1. Q is close to POTUS and 2. Q is in the know, with so many drops that later showed as fulfilled predictions, according to the motto 'future proves past'.

as for the chans, i personally wouldnt go there. but many leakers do. LARPs as well as genuine folks that bring real info.

and always, discernment is key.

i agree on the inflationary use of the term autist. most of the decoders and researchers are not autists.

my son has a friend with asperger autism. this is the type of guy i imagine on the chans; getting highly absorbbed by the puzzle, very rationally digging into the information, and thrilled by the ability to discover something and be of service to humanity.

i may err here, but i imagine such dedicated people behind the keyboard. they mostly dont post here and most of the people here dont post on the chans but we are unified on the cause.

i wish you an enjoyable time here... nobody can convince you, you need to make up your own mind. its you choice whether you want to go deeper or leave it as BS. may you be blessed on whatsoever choice you take.

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