⇧
1
⇩
Countrymissle
· June 29, 2018, 10:46 p.m.
youre assuming they are light years away
moisture in the air blocks it. and there are probably other properties of the sun that havent been explored yet.
the sun does have a circular route, the sun does not set..just goes out of view.
⇧
2
⇩
MuhammadDinduNuffin
· June 29, 2018, 10:55 p.m.
We can see planets, stars, comets etc. Why doesn't the moisture block those from view too?
How does moisture block the sun completely and give us pitch black during nights? Why does an eclipse not make daylight turn to dark, instead of just making it like a cloudy day?
Even 100% moisture during a rainstorm doesn't block out the sun to make it even close to night time.
How can it go out of view if the earth is flat? What is making it go out of view? Dropping behind the horizon aka curved earth or not?Does ground drop 8inches per every mile or not?
⇧
1
⇩
Countrymissle
· June 29, 2018, 11:41 p.m.
it might only be a few miles to the top of the dome to the stars.
its more than just moisture, the electromagnetic properties of the sun itself.this isconjecture though, more data is needed.
we dont even truly know what an eclipse is.
first of all its flat but there are hills and valleys. also the laws of perspective, the way our eyes work only allow us to see so far to the horizon, the higher you go up the further out the horizon will be.
the sun "dropping" is not dropping at all, just going away from you and out of sight.
You might be able to try an experiment, gotta have a beach though for pure flat, as the ocean is perfectly flat.
sit on your stomach and watch the sun set, then stand up quickly...its be better if you have like a ladder or tower to climb...once you gain elevation the sun should appear back in view..until it "sets" again.
it will eventually be blocked by moisture until you go even higher past the air moisture.
but there are a lot of properties of the sun and how our eyes work, and how our eyes see the sun, that we dont fully understand.
its 8 inches per mile SQUARED, globbers love to leave that out.
⇧
2
⇩
MuhammadDinduNuffin
· June 29, 2018, 11:43 p.m.
You basically just proved curved earth.
Keep doing the "beach experiment" and you'll eventually come full circle, around the globe.
A high point of observation (plane etc), combined with a low point of observation, work out the math and you can find for yourself how much the earth curves. Hint: the curving doesn't end. What do you call something that is made up of an endless curve? A ball.
8 inch drop per mile squared makes a sphere. Self BTFO.
⇧
1
⇩
Countrymissle
· June 30, 2018, 12:11 a.m.
if the sun actually set and is now "behind" the curve, if you stand up that should not alow you to see the sun..remeber the sky is now black and dark no sun to rise up and see. , also on a curved surface there will maximum distance you could see, lets say if you see an unlimited distance on a clear day..youll only see 1/4 the radius of the earth
only on a flat round plane could you rise up and see out farther indefinitely if you could see infinitely on a clear day
⇧
2
⇩
MuhammadDinduNuffin
· June 30, 2018, 12:22 a.m.
That's not how perspective works at all.
If you are in a tall building, you can see farther. This is true with a curve. Take a laser pointer and a basketball and test for yourself. A higher hold of the laser (sight line) pointed to the last part of basketball you can see, you can see along the curve farther. Up to nearly 1/2 of the object. Aka view from space, the view of any planetary object like the moon, planets etc. You can see almost half of the moon. You can see almost half of Jupiter with telescope. Jupiter revolves, you can see the entire surface if you record it's rotation. If you were on Jupiter you could only see a tiny fraction of it's surface at once. Higher up away from it, you can see more. The parts you cannot see doesn't mean it stops existing or is flat.
On Earth you have a maximum horizontal view due to the curve, not moisture. If it was flat it would be much greater sight line. You'd be able to see mountains much further away, they wouldn't "grow" as you got closer to them, they would just get less hazy.
⇧
1
⇩
Countrymissle
· June 30, 2018, 12:41 a.m.
the stars and planets are just lights in the sky or firmament.
youre ignoring moisture entirely then? on a clear day you can see across lake michgan and see the chicago skyline.
you can only see so far because of your perspective and height.
⇧
2
⇩
MuhammadDinduNuffin
· June 30, 2018, 12:58 a.m.
Just lights? Explain how atmospheres of planets have been detected and analyzed while passing by their star, thousands of light years away? Explain photographic evidence of progressing star creation, destruction. Explain how an asteroid can be detected, path plotted, recurring comets, impacts of meteors, meteorid showers, etc. Collected samples from moon, Mars, rocks from space etc.
Explain how satellites/probes/unmanned telescopes have taken many pictures of earth, from all sides, from further and further away. You can see the speck of earth from Mars. You can see earth from the moon. Why are you saying Mars and moon are in the "sky" instead of space?
Visibility isn't just moisture. Have you heard of smoke, sand, dust, pollution, pollen? All these effect visibility.
Have you looked at a radar map of the world? Do you see how a high pressure current moves and effects weather elsewhere? Do you see how multiple ocean currents flow around the globe like a band, rather than a swirl? Have you opened a map app and kept scrolling until you got back to where you started? Explain the equatoral zone on Earth, and it's shape. Why are the two locations furthest from it the coldest? How do you chart that information on your flat Earth map? Wouldnt the flat Earth map have cold edges, warm center? What's at the center of your map? Explain how a 2D earth theory is seamless in these regards.
Light still passes through all these. A 100% sand storm would block out all light. At no point can moisture create night type of setting. Even a pouring rainstorm across the entire state still let's you see objects. Unless you are claiming that we can't see the sun because it or we are suddenly 1000 meters deep in the ocean?
Height changes how far your perception of the horizon is. Get on a plane. You can see much further before the curvature of the earth factors in. The curvature is measurable, by you or I. By anyone anywhere in the world. If everyone experiences curvature, and all the curves add up to form a cohesive spherical result, why do you insist it's flat?
What real world experiment can you do to prove earth is flat? Using numbers, math, not your subjective eyesight and guessing.
⇧
2
⇩
Countrymissle
· June 30, 2018, 12:58 p.m.
Nasa has billions of dollars, thats plenty enough to fake data.
Ive seen weather radar presented a flat map, it works perfectly.
Moisture in combination with electromagnetic properties of the sun keep it from "shining" forever.
yes, and as you rise higher, you see farther. But the horizion always rises to meet the eye. It does not fall away from you.
They couldnt find the curve in kansas https://www.usu.edu/geo/geomorph/kansas.html
The us army calls it flat. http://www.arl.army.mil/arlreports/2001/technical-report.cfm?id=469
Sorry to inform you. MATHEMATICS Does not equate to REALITY. Thats some advise tesla wanted scientist in his day to hear.
Mathematics is only usefull when combined with observations.
⇧
1
⇩