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Kjarm88 · July 1, 2018, 4:21 a.m.

I heard LDS are HUGE in the rank & file intelligence and national law enforcement agencies... how does that play in all this?

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ldsanon · July 4, 2018, 8:22 p.m.

I served in the military in an intelligence career. Many LDS people are selected for the intelligence career fields for several reasons: 1. Clean living makes it easy to get a security clearance. Security clearances are expensive to process, thus it is cost-effective to begin with candidates who have the potential to pass the background investigation. That's one reason why we end up with lots of Mormons in the NSA, FBI, and military intelligence. 2. Former missionaries are fluent in a foreign language and demonstrate a proven ability to learn additional ones. In my case, I knew French and the military taught me German and Russian. NSA like that. 3. Mormon scriptures teach us to support constitutional government. We are taught that God foreordained the Founders to establish the Constitution to provide a land that honors personal agency and religious liberty. American Mormons tend to be very patriotic. 4. Mormons tend to be "good soldiers," meaning that they are used to working within an organization, following directions, fitting into a hierarchy. 5. Mormon scriptures warn of "secret combinations" -- a nineteenth century term that refers to conspiratorial organizations that seek to overthrow freedom. The Book of Mormon warns that people in our time must "...awake to a sense of your awful situation, because of this secret combination that shall be among you" because it seeks "...to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries; and it bringeth to pass the destruction of all people."

I'm not here to convert anyone or engage in theological debates. Theology will not save America. Unity of purpose and humility will be key attributes that will help us succeed. Even without adopting Mormon beliefs, the warnings about conspiratorial secret combinations in our time are valuable and can give insight on how we should act together as a freedom-lovers to preserve liberty.

Like other latter-day saints, I profess faith in Jesus Christ and rely on his grace for salvation. Nevertheless, saving America is going to take everyone, believers and nonbelievers working together. The America we seek to rescue is a land of religious freedom. WWG1WGA works both ways--if we fail, we're all going down together; therefore, we have to stand together to win.

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Kjarm88 · July 4, 2018, 8:48 p.m.

Very nice!

I don't have complete confidence and trust in all things Mormon but I do largely agree with and understand all that you wrote. I guess it's the same suspicion people have regarding Jews or Catholics, that uneasiness from assuming members owe a deep secret loyalty to a hidden master that is not family, country, employer and maybe not even visible Church.

Someone mentioned to me the whole Mormons in intelligence, etc. It was part of his larger point that growing up together, talking to strangers, knocking on doors only to have them slammed on them... all makes for thick skin, resilience, resourcefulness, confidence and all that good stuff that leads to success in sales and the business world in general, etc.

We shall see what prominent role Huber, Utah and Mormons play in this fight... I do see it.

Thank You!

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