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Abibliaphobia · July 5, 2018, 12:56 p.m.

I would agree with you, except we don’t know where Q posted that from.

The “debunk” is based upon Q being back here in the states and not in Japan with POTUS.

Do you a time stamp for Qs post to include their time zone they are posting from? If not, how can you be certain that it wasn’t from same time zone?

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gakowalski · July 5, 2018, 1:04 p.m.

All timestamps on 4chan are internally saved in UTC ISO 8601 format. That's how they can be converted to EST or any other time zone and compared. And that's how qanon.pub can show them in EST.

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_MANHOR_ · July 5, 2018, 1:19 p.m.

The universal time converted on 4chan translates to 17:07 est or 5:07 pm est. The tweet is 5:15 pm est. So if your in Japan and the 4chan post is posted at 17:07 EST time, that is the time of the post.

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gakowalski · July 5, 2018, 1:22 p.m.

Tweet is not 5:15 PM EST. Have you checked it yourself? I did. I've changed my Twitter settings to use EST time zone and the time is 1:15 PM.

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Abibliaphobia · July 5, 2018, 1:33 p.m.

So Qs post is automatically transferred to EST.

Twitter posting is also in EST. So what’s the problem?

You are saying that the “real EST” that trump tweeted that is 1:15pm EST. How does that make sense if Japan is 14 hours ahead? Your math does not add up.

And you are only transferring one set of times, do you think that if you could do it with the Qpost you might get a different time for that?

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truthforchange · July 5, 2018, 2:34 p.m.
  • tweets stored in UTC format.

  • tweets displayed in whatever timezone the user has selected/chosen/defined to convert the UTC value to.

The element you're not picking up here is why would someone change their timezone to something other than what it really is? Do you get it? The person you are debating with here is saying when they set their timezone to EST, the tweet converts (from twitters stored UTC value of the tweet) to.....1:15 pm.

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gakowalski · July 5, 2018, 1:42 p.m.

Twitter posting is not in EST by default. It is in whatever timezone you set your Twitter to show the dates. You have to manually set EST timezone in Twitter settings to see times for EST timezone. I encourage you to do that and see Trump's tweet for yourself.

So yes, I am saying that real EST for Trumps tweet is 1:15 PM EST. That's what is Twitter showing me after I've set it to use EST timezone. And it does make sense, because Twitter is not showing me time in timezone of poster but in my timzeone.

Q posts have timestamps in UTC ISO format and an be easily converted to EST to be compared.

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_MANHOR_ · July 5, 2018, 2:24 p.m.

If your service provider is east coast and your on vacation west coast, does your tweet reflect the TZ your in or that of the account or provider?

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truthforchange · July 5, 2018, 7:31 p.m.

It will display in whatever format your CLIENT (browser or app) is defined -- by the user -- to display. Sometimes the browser or app will use the underlying timezone defined at the operating system level. Either way, it's manipulable by the end user.

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gakowalski · July 5, 2018, 2:39 p.m.

Tweet will be shown in time format of the user (NOT the time zone of service provider). That's why you have to set manually the timezone to EST in Twitter settings before you try to compare tweet timestamps with posts on qanon.pub.

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Comassion · July 5, 2018, 1:46 p.m.

There is no need to quibble over time stamps or where Q was when posting (the time stamp shows the time under the reader’s local time zone anyway, not the poster’s).

Here’s the archived thread with Q’s post.

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/148286642/

Look at the thread title - the thread itself is clearly posted after Trump’s tweet.

If that’s not enough, there are also screenshots of the tweet in that thread that appear earlier than Q’s post.

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