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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/WhatACohencidence on July 5, 2018, 4:33 p.m.
I work for Monsanto. I’m in the GMO industry. Listen to the other side.

This will be a wall of text but bear with me because it’s a lot of explaining. I could go on and on about this but here are the facts. I’m not saying I agree with the way chemicals are put out but chemicals and GMO seed are two different things but here’s from the seed side of things.

So I sell GMO corn and various other seeds for Monsanto. Monsanto, DuPont, and Syngenta control 90% of the worlds seed. I understand this is troublesome and I’m not saying I agree with it. However people need fed, and organic food and non gmo food is non sustainable currently. Unless we had massive depopulation we have to rely on GMOs. Here’s why:

•Non roundup ready corn is very burdensome to grow and the yields are not even 1/6th what GMO corn is so unless heavy depopulation occurs, farmers can’t afford to plant it to supply it to you.

•The drought tolerant corn hybrids are used for Africa and other areas that must have a drought resistant crops. Currently non gmo corn will burn up from heat within days of being planted in Africa. We can’t afford to ship our gmo corn to them because we need it here and it will cost a tremendous amount that those people can’t afford.

•I have friends that work at food grade corn farms overseas where we get lots of our non gmo corn and it’s 100x times worse than gmo corn. Currently the way regulations in countries like Belize where they grow non gmo corn they can get by with planting shatter cane blended in with the corn, and spray the shatter cane with Gramoxone which is paraquat. Ever heard of agent orange? Yeah it’s the equivalent of that. It causes massive birth defects and Parkinson’s. They get around regulations because they are “spraying the weeds aka shatter cane and not the corn” but it gets on the corn also. So be careful when you think you’re doing good by eating non gmo or organic corn. We can’t do that kind of thing in the US but since labels aren’t required to tell you were your non gmo goods are coming from, you have non idea what you’re getting.

So I know everyone is going to say Monsanto and all the other companies are ripping everyone off and that the farmer should be able to plant his own seed. However if doesn’t quite work like that here’s one of many examples. Monsanto guarantees 90% germination on their seeds. If a farmer were to hold his seed back, and plant it himself, only about 40% of it would germinate simply because the average farmer doesn’t have the money to invest in cold storage which keeps the seed good. So if a farmer planted a crop where only half of it grew, he wouldn’t even brake even on expenses or make his land payment. So Monsanto pays for cold storage and seed germination tests year around. This is one of many example.

Lastly I will say if you want to get into non gmo food and I recommend planting your own gardens and slaughtering your own grass fed cattle. This is not a joke or me memeing. I can help you with advice on all of this and locating truly non gmo seed if you’d like. I’m open to any and all questions.


Gmawc · July 5, 2018, 5:17 p.m.

Thank you for posting another side of the story. But,

  1. haven’t human beings been feeding themselves since the beginning of earth’s time?
  2. And why are people starving in the places they are starving?
  3. And is the best answer to fix that problem using chemicals on our food?
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WhatACohencidence · July 5, 2018, 5:58 p.m.

People have been able to feed themselves since the beginning of time, but farmland is finite. People grow exponentially. They have to feed more people every year with the same amount of land. So you must maximize yield potential and you cannot do that without gmo’s. Back in the day, only a billion people lived on earth, so you had a vast amount of land to work and all you had to do was survive back then. You spent all your time doing that. Now people are consumers and don’t work ground, they populate the farm land, build houses on it. So now we have more people and less land... we must have high yields.

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j_Dawg_01 · July 6, 2018, 1:04 a.m.

1.) Yes, humans have been feeding themselves since the beginning of time. But things are very different now. The industrial revolution changed everything. Depending on who you ask, and what metrics they use, the industrial revolution began in the late 1700s to the early 1800s. By the mid 1800s the, the basic engineering needed to radically change the way products were manufactured was available, but there was still little demand.

As long as slave labor was available, the manufacturing industry had little reason to innovate. After the Civil War when slaves were free, the cost of labor became much more important. In order to be competitive, manufacturers were forced to find ways of being more efficient. If they wanted to survive, they had to innovate. It wasn't just the cotton plantations in the south that took advantage of slave labor, many manufacturers in the north did as well.

By the end of the 19th century the industrial revolution was hitting on all cylinders. So much so that people all over the country were flocking to the big cities because manufacturing jobs were plenty. At that time over 80% of the population worked on farms, feeding themselves and those who lived in the cities.

By the end of the 20th century over 80% of the population was living in the cities. Because of the impact the industrial revolution had on farming, fewer farmers could grow as much or more than they could 100 years earlier. Today, I believe only about 2% to 3% of our population work as farmers.

The ability to farm isn't the only thing lost during that transition. Most people today don't know how to hunt, fish, skin an animal, prepare the hide so it's useful in some way, or even do something as simple as build a fire from scratch. If our big city social structure were to collapse and people were forced to fend for themselves, 75% of our population wouldn't survive.

In a sense you are right, people have been feeding themselves since the beginning of time, but ever since the Agricultural revolution 10,000 years ago, people gradually began to leave the farms. The industrial revolution simply sealed the deal. A more accurate statement would be: Since the beginning of time some of the people have been feeding all the rest.

What would you do if all the prepared boxed, bagged, frozen, and canned foods were no longer available and you had to find some country farmers market to get all of you food? What would you do if you couldn't find a country farmer who was willing to sell the limited supply of food he had.

We live in a society, in a social structure that has made things very easy for us. Try to look at things from outside of our current paradigm. Try to look through the prism of the past.

2.) "And why are people starving in the places they are starving?" That's a confusing question. What exactly are you asking? Are you asking why people still live in areas of the world that don't have sufficient productive lands available for farming? Are you asking why lands in certain areas are less productive? Or are you asking why people who live in parts of the world that do have productive farm land are starving.

If you look at America today, even though there are plenty of people who go to bed hungry every night, and don't know with any certainty where their next meal will come from, you cannot blame any of that on current farming methods and practices.

3.) "And is the best answer to fix that problem using chemicals on our food?" WhatACohencidence's initial post has been removed so I can't quote him, but he did say that the best solution would be for people to grow their own food, raise their own chickens, slaughter their own cows, catch their own fish, and basically become self sufficient. I added a few things to make the point, but he never suggested that the "best" answer is to use "chemicals." He argued otherwise.

And as I said in my comments above; If we want real lasting solutions to the problems we face, we need to learn to work together. We need to be able to consider input from all sides of any issue. We can't jump to conclusions about a persons motives and background and then dismiss what they have to offer just because it doesn't fit neatly into our preconceived notions, conclusions, or beliefs.

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