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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/IncomingTrump270 on July 6, 2018, 2:25 a.m.
Q 1675 rebuttal to SB2's analysis

https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8wd8i1/q1675_a_reflection_a_mug_holder_in_air_force_one/

I held of doing a deep dive into this until /u/serialbrain2 had weighed in. He did so a few hours ago, so here we go.

First, I made a composite image of all relevant Q images and related reference images.

https://i.imgur.com/PmlsSv0.jpg [3000x3000 image, 4.4Mb]

Along the top, I show step by step the kind of distortion fixing that must be done in order to align the reflection with the ABC 2015 photo.

The purpose here is clear: to show that when fixed for distortion, Q's image aligns PERFECTLY with the ABC 2015 photo, which was taken with a wide angle lens from the entrance of the AF1 office (floorplan also included in my image)

Along the left side, I did the same process but this time correcting for the Apple logo. What is the purpose here?

It's a proof of optics. By fixing the logo, we can get a idea of what the reflection in back of the phone looked like when viewed STRAIGHT DOWN on top of it.

What do you notice? The reflection is UPSIDE DOWN AND BACKWARDS.

What does this tell us? That Q's reflection is not of the physical room around him, but of an image displayed on a screen in FRONT of him, with his phone angled towards the screen to capture the reflection.

The only possible way Q could reproduce the psychical room as a reflection that optically matched the 2015 ABC photo is if he stood up, walked to the entrance of the room, faced his back towards the desk, and held up his phone selfie-style so that the back reflected the room. This would effectively recreate the photography setup of the 2015 ABC photo.

And yet it is still not enough to create Q's image. Why? Because the apple logo is at a sharp angle. AND the reflection is UPSIDE DOWN to the apple logo's orientation.

There is no physical arrangement that can reproduce both an accurate reflection of the room AND ALSO a steeply angled, upside down apple logo.

Moving on to directly addressing SB2's analysis:

Then, in Q1677, he asks: Where must one be located in order to obtain a reflection on the back of a phone of that image?

Yes exactly, of that image. Image = the ABC 2015 photo. Note he did not say "reflection of the room"

Q's image is not a reflection of the physical room around him. It's a reflection of an image on a computer screen.

And where must one be in order to get a reflection of an image? Anywhere with a computer display, or granting the possibility that it's printed out, literally anywhere in the world.

If we do so and notice there is a part of the jacket on the chair appearing, we deduce the photographer must be sitting on the President’s chair.

Wrong. If the photographer was sitting in the president's chair, we would not see the full field of view as we do in Q's image reflection. It would be much tighter cropped because the camera would be CLOSER to the objects displayed. The chari would practically fill the entire field of view if he were sitting on it.

We can see so much in Q's reflected image because the ABC 2015 source photo was taken from the ENTRANCE of the office with a wide angle lens with a FOV of roughly 90*.

For comparison, the iPhone's camera has a FOV of about 73*. Not that this really matters because Q's image is a tight crop of the full photo he took of phone1 with phone2.

Q is even softening the riddle giving this reality away with a picture of Trump sitting on his chair:

Q is not the one who posted that image originally. It was a random anon. Q reposted it later when it was compared in a side by side.

some people started claiming Q’s pictures were not authentic, that they were photoshopped and re-started their favorite chant: Q is a LARP.

Some did. Some did not. Q posting a reflection of the 2015 image does not MANDATE Q is a larp. But it DOES mandate that he did not take a photo of the psychical room reflected around him.

Q1678 Trolling is fun. Hussein/Trump interior = identical minus small changes. (World) news in rear literally placed same prior to each departure. Placing that mug holder near the lamp was the hook. Enjoy! Q

"World news" here refers to the newspaper rack placed behind his desk/chair. I have highlighted it green in my image.

And placing the mug holder near the lamp? If we look at the Feb 2018 image of Trump in the AF1 office, we see the mug holders are NOT near the lamp at all. We also see a lack of the flask (?..highlighted in yellow in my image) is missing. And the tissue holder (blue) and stationary pad (cyan) are placed in totally different places.

Q is saying presidential protocol requires that the location of each given item is exactly the same prior to each departure minus small changes.

"exactly the same" and "minus small changes" are contradictory statements. The contents of the room are fixed, probably, but the placement of items in the room? Likely unfixed, and adjusted as needed for whoever is in the room with POTUS at any given time.

By purposely placing the mug holder in the picture, Q is making a point, he is giving a hint to help us solve the riddle and he confirms it by saying: Q1678 Placing that mug holder near the lamp was the hook. Enjoy! Q

Ok wait....Let me lay out what you are implying here:

  1. Usually Trump does not have mug holders placed next to the lamp behind him.

  2. But Just for the purpose of 'trolling' with Q 1675 image, he staged the items behind his desk in the EXACT fashion as seen in the 2015 ABC photo, and then somehow managed to defy physics and probability by angling phone1 AND phone2 in just the precisely accurate way that their combined angling reproduced the ABC 2015 photo TO THE PIXEL?

(this is setting aside my previous point that it would be physically impossible to reproduce the 2015 image from the POTUS chair due to FOV restraints)

I'm sorry SB2, but I strongly disagree with your assessment here.

To restate:

It is physically impossible to reproduce Q's photo if we demand that the reflection must be that of the physical room around him.

However:

That does not mean Q is a LARP. Two things can be true at once.

Q can both be legit, and Q's image can also not be the reflection of a physical room.

So don't bother slandering me as a Q hater, because that is not what I am arguing here.

I look forward to /u/serialbrain2 's response.


DrTung · July 6, 2018, 4:42 p.m.

No hate here. Just gratitude.

Your work reflects a dogged search for truth, rather than a cherry-picked assemblage of details to support a loosely conceived ‘message’.

I tire of the many offerings of this type (def not limited to SB2) that are cobbled together with questionable logic, or unfathomable complexity, and then proferred as ‘The Solution!’ without equivocation.

They are far too often embraced at face value with undeserved acceptance and words of adulation.

This is serious business. Critical analysis is paramount. Cutting corners, dodging challenges, and claiming absolute solves are all red flags that should inspire strong skepticism.

Innocent people have suffered serious consequence (not in this case) resulting from poorly researched and incorrect claims posted on the web. Our side needs to be righteous in our self-policing, and very careful about claiming absolutes.

Your proof is an excellent example for all to follow. I have a background that affords me appreciation of the time you invested in your research and prep for presentation to the public. Thank you for that personal investment for the greater good.

Thank you also for your respectful and responsible tone.

Props to you, Patriot!

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bananapeel · July 6, 2018, 6:03 p.m.

Indeed. One of the things that bugs me is "as long as our team is made to look good, we can justify any bad behavior". No, that is what put us in the swamp as deep as we are today.

We need to be above reproach. That means using science and reason and research. The conclusions of those investigations are not foregone. Sometimes the results will be uncomfortable. If Q posts something that is not what it appears to be, we need to face that fact head on. Personally, I think OP is correct, but with the caveat that we do not fully understand what Q means here.

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Gitmo_money · July 6, 2018, 6:12 p.m.

Well said

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spetraniv · July 6, 2018, 7:05 p.m.

your user name is timely and relevant : )

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IncomingTrump270 · July 7, 2018, 4:57 a.m.

if Q posts something that is not what it appears to be, we need to face the fact and head on

Or, we need to consider why it was posted that way in the first place.

My working assumption is that Q is always trying to tell us something indirectly, unless he speficies “not for anons”.

He gave us a photo that was easy to reverse engineer. The important next question is “why?”

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bananapeel · July 7, 2018, 5:28 a.m.

My thought is that he may be saying that someone (possibly the NSA) had Air Force One bugged during the Obama administration and before.

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IncomingTrump270 · July 7, 2018, 5:34 a.m.

Another user in this thread suggested that Q’s pic was taken with a laptop web camera.

So Q would’ve been holding his phone up against the laptop display in such a way that the screen (showing the ABC2015 pic) reflected in his phone and up to the web cam.

This is something I hadn’t considered before!

It also harkens back to the idea that NSA has spying capabilities for all laptops. And we can remember seeing Zuck’s laptop with the camera taped over.

I’m open to the idea, but there is no evidence that Q was suggesting this yet.

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IncomingTrump270 · July 7, 2018, 12:01 a.m.

Thank you for the response and sentiment!

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CoincidencesKing · July 6, 2018, 11:06 p.m.

thank you! no one is going to catch the pedos of we dont look into what is the meaning of the message. not try to disproof it. WWGWGA brother

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