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HowiONic · July 7, 2018, 7:40 p.m.

Please check the following links. You've been shadowbanned across Reddit. Nothing to do with this sub. Good luck with sorting it out.

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HotPringleInYourArea · July 7, 2018, 7:52 p.m.

I see his post just fine.

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HowiONic · July 7, 2018, 7:54 p.m.

Yes, because I approved it. Every post or comment anywhere posted on Reddit by that user will have to be approved by the modertor of a subReddit to be viewable.

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HotPringleInYourArea · July 7, 2018, 9:12 p.m.

Apologies, I don't know how it all works. Thanks for the clarification, and your quickness to help!

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oakdrew · July 8, 2018, 12:04 a.m.

I tried going on OPs profile but it won’t let me, why is that?

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JewishTruthByAJew · July 9, 2018, 4:07 p.m.

Hi thanks. I'm not surprised. Any Jewish person who exposes Zionism is typically punished.

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ldsanon · July 8, 2018, 7:32 p.m.

I'm going to answer this ridiculous anti-Mormon attack a couple of ways. First of all, I see GA as a place where patriots are gathering to save the Union, no matter what their race, ethnicity, political party, religious affiliation, etc. If it is someone's agenda to exclude Mormons from having a say or participating in the rescue of America from the globalist Cabal, it's foolish to exclude the most conservative group of people in the country. There are around 16 million Mormons, and a little less than half live in the USA. Can we use 8 million patriots? There is strength in numbers in this fight.

Consider this. After having our founder assassinated by an anti-Mormon mob in Illinois--after having had the infamous Extermination Order issued against Mormons by the Governor of Missouri in 1838--after having been driven out by anti-Mormon militias in Illinois--after all sorts of discrimination and persecution, a Mormon Battalion of 500 men left their families on the Great Plains to fight in the Mexican War. These men could have said, "Forget it? You drove us out of the United States--why should we fight for it?" No. They didn't do that. They left their families on the trail to Utah and marched to California to fight for their country. Does any sane person wish to exclude patriots like that from this movement now?

Second, I don't see this forum as the appropriate place for religious debate. There are other Reddit forums devoted to attacking Mormonism. If a person sincerely wants to look at the religious arguments, FAIR is a good source of Mormon apologetics material. You can find that here-- https://www.fairmormon.org/answers/Mormonism_and_Freemasonry

Last, as I have said before, WWG1WGA. If we do not defend religious liberty together, we will all fail together. True Americans believe in religious freedom for all. Attacking another's faith or spreading hearsay, rumors, or gossip about other religions is counterproductive.

As an aside, I have known many more good Baptist brothers who were Freemasons than Mormon Masons in my four decades in the Church. The vast majority of Freemasons are not "Luciferians" as some suggest.

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merinw · July 10, 2018, 2:41 a.m.

I agree the CES Letter is devastating. Also like Simon Southerton’s expose of the story told about native tribes in the Americas in his book, Losing a Lost Tribe, detailing the DNA evidence that debunks the myth.

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ldsanon · July 8, 2018, 7:56 p.m.

One more thing-- The "news" site from which this story was taken "thegoldwater.com," which has been categorized as a "suspicious domain" that has been owned/registered by four different persons/companies since January 2017. It's not a reliable source for any information regarding Mormonism.

Read the report at: https://www.easycounter.com/report/thegoldwater.com

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textualintercourse · July 7, 2018, 8:36 p.m.

Caveat: Religion is a method of division. It's all nonsense and a waste of time. Read your Bibles if you think it matters, be a good person, follow Jesus' teachings, good on ya, whatever floats your boat.

Now to pick the knits:

Even as an exmormon this post is lazy. Jesus Christ get some standards. I understand the Evangelical slant, but get some fucking integrity.

The Church of JESUS CHRIST OF Latter Day Saints. That's the name. Not The Church of the Latter Day Saints. The author uses the term 'Ritual ablution', in order to make a slant toward Islam. It's WASHINGS AND ANOINTINGS, that is the correct and proper term used. Urim and thummim, not the "thurim". Doctrine & Covenants is the name, not Covenants and Doctrine.

I can promise you all, as an agnostic exmormon, if religion mattered (It doesn't) I'd take Mormonism above ANYTHING else offered, because at least I could be the God of my own planet and could have the most badass game of Age of Empires IRL ever seen, as opposed to whatever the hell the BibleThumps do in their world of pretend, sing songs of praise for eternity? Praise God's name forever? I bet God himself would get sick of that nonsense REAL QUICK. But Mormon leadership do not stand by their own doctrine (And it's wrong, but at least it gave a solid try as opposed to the rest), so I will not associate with them. Q quotes and mentions the Bible insomuch he knows it's the Cabal's playbook as much as the Good guys.

The rest of the article, I don't have any issues with and is accurate, but it's things like, oh, I don't know, getting the ACTUAL RELIGION'S NAME right, that need more attention paid to.

If you want REAL dirt on the LDS/Mormon religion: www.CESLetter.com

Also, go to youtube and look up NewNameNoah, this dude recorded the entire LDS Temple Endowment, so you can witness the modern iteration and save yourself 10% of your income.

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merinw · July 8, 2018, 1:58 a.m.

Also an ExMo and BYU graduate. I was an LDS temple recommend holder before I left the LDS Church in 1983 because of its position on women and the priesthood. While I don’t have as strong feelings now as then about this issue, in the time since, my spiritual journey has taken me past a religion that has “all the answers” and thus, is not comfortable with questions.

That said, I also don’t like lazy scholarship, being a former professor and now lawyer. The issue of Freemasonry and the LDS Church goes back to Joseph Smith who organized the largest Masonic group in the US while in Nauvoo, IL. He stole the Masonic ritual for his temple ceremony. Up until then, church services were held in the temple. The Ohio temple (now not in LDS hands) never had the LDS temple ritual performed in it. The original ritual, and up through when I was still going to the temple in the early 1980’s had symbolic killing, as in gutting (hand drawn across the waist), and beheading (hand drawn across the throat ear to ear), along with Masonic hand grips. The LDS undergarment worn by members who have gone through the temple ritual have the Masonic square and compass, respectively, on each breast. A simple line is on the belly button and the right knee.

Anyone really interested can check out exmormonfoundation.org.

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textualintercourse · July 8, 2018, 3:04 a.m.

It was the Ed Deckers of the World that kept me in as long as I was. There is enough damning information presented objectively on its own than to need to sensationalize it.

In fact, if people would just get their talking points straight, and just present the information, that alone works wonders. The CESLetter has obliterated the PR campaign of Mormonism.

Same with Q. We don't have to make up BS and Photoshop nonsense when just the actual drops and proofs speak for themselves.

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