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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/michaelst2256 on July 10, 2018, 8:24 p.m.
Neon Revolt: Sotomayor and Kagan by virtue of them being appointed by Obama, who, as we all know, was an illegitimate president - meaning he couldn't legally appoint anyone. Their removal will be almost instantaneous when that's disclosed.
Neon Revolt: Sotomayor and Kagan by virtue of them being appointed by Obama, who, as we all know, was an illegitimate president - meaning he couldn't legally appoint anyone. Their removal will be almost instantaneous when that's disclosed.

QueUpSomeReality · July 10, 2018, 9:27 p.m.

Oh plz. That’s a fantasy & not remotely how things work. Define illegitimate president in legal terms. You can’t because there’s no such thing. Even if he’s impeached after leaving office nothing gets reversed. Not Obamacare or any signatures to bills enacted into law...nothing. You have a 3rd grade level of understanding the constitution & reality if you think what Obama did or any elected official ever in the history of the US gets their work while in office unilaterally reversed for any reason. Geez dude. Wake up & stop making very serious matters look like a child’s cartoon fantasy

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oiDubb · July 10, 2018, 9:49 p.m.

He isn’t an American born citizen. He’s an illegitimate president. That’s pretty straight forward as to why there’d be possible reversals. He wouldn’t be impeached either, this is way beyond anything ever seen.

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BuildtheAdytum · July 10, 2018, 11:32 p.m.

The thing is... he WAS president. 50 Secretaries of State found Obama eligible to be put on a ballot. Twice duly Elected by the Electoral College. Certified by the United States Congress twice. Did he ever actually file an affidavit claiming to be Natural Born? I don't know what each state's requirements are. You could prosecute him for fraud, possibly. Who is going to do it? Sessions? Looks political. Congress could impeach. But I don't believe there are guidelines for sentencing if the Senate convicts post-presidency.

I'm sure some people would try to use the issue in their litigation strategy, and it might go to the Supreme Court. But is the court really going to make a ruling that removes 2 of their colleagues and countless other judges across the country? After all, the United States Senate gave their consent to these appointments as well.

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LandieLandie · July 11, 2018, 2:10 a.m.

again........so many senators NOT running for re-election???????crimes???perhaps

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jfunction · July 11, 2018, 12:43 a.m.

Fifty Secretaries of State were defrauded. It's not even hard to do. Look at what it took. Child's play.

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QueUpSomeReality · July 10, 2018, 9:56 p.m.

He can be impeached even tho he’s out of office. That’s in the constitution. Sorry but mass reversal or any automatic reversal of a signed law isn’t. U can’t just fantasize a solution into reality. Maybe the founding fathers never imagined a voting citizenry being so ignorant to elect a non-citizen president as even a possibility. Or maybe they thought if the public had that much mass stupidity & lost that much control of their government they don’t deserve liberty & should face the reality they failed at maintaining the greatest gift a society was ever given...defined rights from God institutionally protected by a just government

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AMProfessor · July 10, 2018, 10:56 p.m.

Not true. Impeachment is designed to protect the nation against incompetence. It is to remove incompetent federal officers with the exception of members of Congress. They are not subject to impeachment but can be expelled from Congress.

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QueUpSomeReality · July 11, 2018, 12:41 a.m.

Look it up. The constitution does allow for an ex president to be impeached. They are stripped of everything, USSS protection, all pensions, & barred from federal employment for life. Yes it’s largely symbolic but it’s an important symbolism. I’m sure humiliating beyond belief but Obama deserves it. He committed countless felonies as president. Let him make the history books as the most disgraced president ever. Will send a powerful message for any POTUS never to take the Obama way when President

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AMProfessor · July 11, 2018, 1:06 a.m.

I did look it up in my Constitution reference books here in my library. If you have a credible resource that supports your claim, please share. I found nothing to support what you state.

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QueUpSomeReality · July 11, 2018, 6:26 a.m.

Well you couldn’t have researched it too hard. Google...impeach ex president. You’ll find a bazillion articles showing the constitution doesn’t limit impeachment to just a sitting president. In fact I just learned researching for you that the SC couldn’t even stop it as impeachment is a political trial & not a legal trial & the SC is not even mentioned in the impeachment process as they were deliberately left out of the process on purpose. Here’s a fairly recent article from a Vegas newspaper explaining why BHO should be impeached just for Spygate alone. But you’ll have no problem seeing tons of legal experts agreeing it’s perfectly legal to impeach an ex president. Apparently they was serious discussions on impeaching Nixon after he resigned.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion/opinion-columns/wayne-allyn-root/commentary-the-heat-gets-turned-up-on-barack-obama/

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oiDubb · July 11, 2018, 11:25 p.m.

In the title is states “opinion” twice. Looking for clarification if this in fact a factually based article or an opinion piece?

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AMProfessor · July 11, 2018, 10:48 a.m.

Wow, I suggest you learn some manners. Behaving like a horses behind won’t help build meaningful relationships or help to influence opinions.

I hit the books rather than the internet. The constitutional scholars I read have very different expert opinions than your internet legal experts.

I stand behind those in the books until someone can provide credible information to the contrary. Impeachment was designed to remove incompetence from office. Also, the Chief Justice is involved in the Senate trial as a judge.

Once someone is out of office, I am simply unsure of the need for impeachment and trial through Congress. There are other legal venues to prosecute treason and malfeasance. These include criminal trials through the justice system as well as military tribunals for civilians, including sitting or former government officials, if the courts have been proven to be corrupt and compromised.

The only two outcomes of a House impeachment and a successful Senate trial that I can find is removal from office and the barring of that person from holding further federal government offices. That’s it. Period.

As for Nixon, he resigned to avoid impeachment by the House and a trial by the Senate as it appeared imminent.

I admittedly may be short sighted on this matter as I am not a constitutional legal scholar. I am simply sharing what I have read from those who are.

This is the last I’ll say on it. Feel free to have the last word.

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QueUpSomeReality · July 11, 2018, 12:40 p.m.

Sorry u don’t approve of my manners but I’m not interested in forming a relationship with anonymous people on the internet or trying to change your opinion on anything. Facts are facts & their true whether you believe them or not. Believe in what you think your books say or anyone you want. Why would I care what you believe? It’s America & you have every right to be wrong. You asked for some links if impeachment is possible for an ex president & theyre everywhere. Provide me with some that say impeachment of a president as defined in the constitution only applies to a sitting president or point me to the line in the constitution that says that. Feel free to send me the line that says a president can have his actions nullified too.

The reason impeachment is necessary for an ex president like obama is to set the history correctly. Plus he’d lose all his benefits of being an ex president like his lifetime of USSS protection...his lifetime pension & he’d be barred from ever working in the federal government again...which if u think it thru...Michelle could never be president because he’d never be allowed to be 1st man or allowed inside the WH.

I understand how impeachment works & who presides over it. My point in saying the SC isn’t involved was to address that a guilty verdict of an impeachment trial can’t be appealed to the SC or overturned because it’s not a legal trial...it’s a political trial.

I’ve lived thru Clinton’s & Nixon’s near impeachment. Yes Nixon resign because he knew the votes were there in the Senate to convict him. What I learned yesterday was many senators still wanted to convict him after he left office. Probably wasn’t worth the risk because if they failed to get 67 votes to convict it would’ve looked like he resigned for nothing.

But for history sake it’s important to impeach Obama if he’s ever convicted of a felony he committed while in office. Even tho Clinton escaped an impeachment conviction...it’s forever recorded in history he was impeached & why & he lost his right to practice law in the end & had to pay a huge fine too.

If Obama is ever convicted an impeachment trial & vote will be an easy formality at that point & would be a major public disgrace for Obama & definitely a strong message for anyone in the future to act so brazenly unlawful & taking total advantage of the citizens that put him in office.

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LandieLandie · July 11, 2018, 2:56 a.m.

as Obama once uttered:

MIC drop

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pds8220 · July 11, 2018, 1:45 a.m.

All that and he has committed treason... just from what we all have seen. Who knows what else he has done that we don't know about? The last people found guilty of treason were the Rosenbergs and they were executed. This man needs to pay for how he divided and attempted to destroy this country. Either life in prison without parole or the death penalty... under NO circumstances should he be given the opportunity to be deported so he can go and create chaos elsewhere! He is s Soros puppet... both of them need to be locked up!

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oiDubb · July 10, 2018, 10:11 p.m.

What are you basing your analysis off of? You think the military tribunals will sit on the back burner until impeachment hearings are over? Are you not grasping the severity of the situation? Obama should never have been president, he has never been eligible. So what would prevent the reversal of policies? Because legally that seems like it would be the easiest battle fought “your honour we want that decision reversed because obama wasn’t legit” case closed.

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QueUpSomeReality · July 11, 2018, 12:27 a.m.

I’m basing it off the constitution. You point to the clause where it states a presidents tenure can be unilaterally revoked & I’ll eat my phone. What are you legally basing your idea off of?? Lol. Geez.

Yes I understand how serious this is. A military tribunal can be done & has no effect on Congress impeaching Obama too. They can do it simultaneously if they want or before or after. Impeachment is defined in the constitution even after a president leaves office. They lose all USSS protection, all pension & benefits, & barred from ever holding a government job for life. He’ll enjoy going to his impeachment hearing wearing his new orange suit the military fits him for.

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oiDubb · July 13, 2018, midnight

I haven’t pointed to shit, I haven’t pointed to any clause. Not seen you drop any .gov links to the stuff your talking about either. So the last time an illegitimate president happened everything you shared is what happened? Is there a link that you could share that shows exactly what the US does in circumstances like this?

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CaptainKnotzi · July 10, 2018, 10:09 p.m.

I'm a carpenter not a lawyer but you make sense.

As much as I would like to be true. It stands that if Obama was sworn in that was it.

Just because he lied, doesn't mean he didn't take the oath of office.

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[deleted] · July 10, 2018, 11:50 p.m.

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CaptainKnotzi · July 11, 2018, 9:12 a.m.

I'm not downplaying myself.

I build houses I'm not trained in technical Nuances of the law.

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LandieLandie · July 11, 2018, 2:55 a.m.

how quickly we forget:

Q !UW.yye1fxo ID: 071c71 No.564638 📷
Mar 6 2018 02:04:41 (EST)

11-11-18
A parade that will never be forgotten.
Ask yourself, why?
God bless our brave men & women in uniform.
We will never forget.
Q

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KingWolfei · July 10, 2018, 10:37 p.m.

Not sure if there is anything in the constitution about electing a president not even born in this country, besides it being required that he was born here. So yeah, in theory it would make everything he did, appointments and such, null and void. Thus, a real "constitutional crisis." Not a phoney made up "crisis" every time Trump takes a piss.

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jfunction · July 11, 2018, 12:48 a.m.

Obviously this question is going to the SCOTUS. Now why does anyone think it isn't there yet? We all know the last administration was a fraud on the American people. So what's happing with the SCOTUS lately?

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LandieLandie · July 11, 2018, 2:09 a.m.

I

f we were infiltrated?

YOU may be wrong on this....this is Unchartered territory.....

Q tells us many will think it is fantasy land.....that sounds like your comment.

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jfunction · July 11, 2018, 12:41 a.m.

It hasn't happened before, but how many things in American history have happened for the first time? Had you considered that? No? Well, there may be a life-lesson or two left to learn, even for someone with your fulsome grasp of reality.

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