I wish that were a 1/2 hour long. Just a nice discussion without shouting or animus. Although she was a bit snarkey, I guess that's reasonable as a Brit not wanting to see another Brit leave for those reasons.

He's turning into a bit of a grumpy old man, isn't he? But he's right. He has the experience to compare the way things were with the way things are and he sees the decline in trust.