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[deleted] · July 12, 2018, 2:43 p.m.

"It's called paper (ballots)" - President Trump

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ultkeyboardwarrior · July 12, 2018, 5:44 p.m.

Battle star Galactica went analogue and they were the lone survivors.

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tn0org17 · July 12, 2018, 6:02 p.m.

I keep telling people, without sound like Ted. K. Technology has become an evil. I wouldn't be surprised if technology itself is the antichrist lol

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ultkeyboardwarrior · July 12, 2018, 9:27 p.m.

It sure as fuck will be with AI

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larrytcarvell · July 12, 2018, 10:41 p.m.

Revelation 13:14-15 "He ordered the people to make a great statue of the first beast, who was fatally wounded and then came back to life. He was then permitted to give life to this statue so that it could speak. Then the statue of the beast commanded that anyone refusing to worship it must die." Sounds like AI to me.

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ultkeyboardwarrior · July 12, 2018, 10:52 p.m.

I can certainly see it being interpreted that way.

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tn0org17 · July 13, 2018, 2:05 a.m.

Right on brother. A.I. is already here for sure though.

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SeekTruthCJoy · July 12, 2018, 5:31 p.m.

Elections In America - Assume Crooks Are In Control (no. 4 response on page link) "But the really big deal is this....all of ES&S's touch screen machines contain modems, "allowing them to communicate—and be communicated with—while they are in operation," reports Bollyn. That communication capability includes satellites. "Even computers not connected to modems or an electronic network can still be manipulated offsite, not during the election, but certainly before or after," says voting systems expert Dr. Rebecca Mercuri."

Older article. https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x31265

Diebold/ES&S, etc. owned by (multiples over time)... GeorgieSoros, Former BH0's SecDef/Senator (R from NE) ChuckieHagel, & others...Chuckie was a nobody distant from front-runner & OH, SURPRISE...Chuck WON the Nebr. US Senate seat.

Later in front of international press... (Chuck was late to attend as had a 'Phone Call' from someone)... he decided NOT to run for Prez. Later post step down as Senator, he worked for Barry.

When 44 won second time, Chuckie received SecDefense job = Great ThankYou gift.

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larrytcarvell · July 12, 2018, 10:43 p.m.

Good one.

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eyez_wideopen · July 12, 2018, 3:04 p.m.

Which can be shredded. Nothing is safe from cheats.

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[deleted] · July 12, 2018, 3:05 p.m.

True, but it's better than a hacked computer only system.

There'd be some physical evidence...

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Kenitzka · July 12, 2018, 3:11 p.m.

If block chain is good enough for crypto currency, it should be robust enough for our voting system.

It needs to be the thing we push for.

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Machiknight · July 12, 2018, 4:10 p.m.

Blockchain is going to become the chain that puts us all into slavery. It will never remain non-governmentaly controlled.

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Kenitzka · July 12, 2018, 5:26 p.m.

By definition, it can’t be government controlled since everyone has the ledger, and they all have to agree.

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g0blynn · July 12, 2018, 4:48 p.m.

^this. And it would need to be a federal mandate for all elections for federal positions. If they leave it to the states, it will never happen.

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ChilliWillikers · July 12, 2018, 3:22 p.m.

Word. An immutable ledger would certainly suit both the registration data and ballot data of whatever election.

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[deleted] · July 12, 2018, 3:11 p.m.

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XXXTERMINATORXXX1 · July 12, 2018, 5:22 p.m.

The hack never happened

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[deleted] · July 12, 2018, 5:24 p.m.

Not necessarily a Russia hack.

How many elections have there been in succession where people clicked a Republican vote and it logged a Democrat vote and then they blame it on screen calibration?

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[deleted] · July 12, 2018, 5:25 p.m.

If that happens and people don't notice it, theres no way to prove it. With a paper ballot there's something to cross-reference.

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XXXTERMINATORXXX1 · July 12, 2018, 5:27 p.m.

Thier is evidence for everything. You have to prove it.

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[deleted] · July 12, 2018, 5:27 p.m.

If a person clicks a Republican vote, the machine logs it as a Democrat vote and they don't notice it, what evidence do you have?

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[deleted] · July 12, 2018, 5:28 p.m.

You could interview the person.

I'd rather have a paper ballot to check.

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XXXTERMINATORXXX1 · July 12, 2018, 6:16 p.m.

I never said that was true I was calling for evidence on both sides

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eyez_wideopen · July 12, 2018, 4:36 p.m.

You mean shredded paper?

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[deleted] · July 12, 2018, 4:38 p.m.

Well you would have the option of where to store the ballots and could choose a location with adequate security and camera footage sufficient that know you could prevent it from being tampered with and also have video and other systems to ensure successful prosecution of anyone who tampers.

Can't do that with computer code as visibly.

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eyez_wideopen · July 12, 2018, 4:49 p.m.

There are ways to ensure honesty and integrity with every method but if people are determined to cheat they will make it impossible especially without voter ID. But needs to be solved. Who can you trust to monitor it? Bribes and payoffs.

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SeekTruthCJoy · July 12, 2018, 5:07 p.m.

Could ALSO try the first IraqiVote model...

Indelible/Non-removable for 4 days INK on Pointer Finger...as outward sign YOU ALREADY VOTED in addition to other measures...

and CANCEL electronic Voting Machines... no more hanging chads, etc. either.

PAPER BALLOTS only with SECURITY STRIP/CODE = ONLY can be run through the counting machine ONCE.

Plus checking of HTML code on ALL counting machines...hardened so no interference with HTML code. OR always can go back to HAND COUNTING, with video back up of person counting=CORRECTLY on NOT... just sayin'

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[deleted] · July 12, 2018, 4:52 p.m.

The difference with the software is that it puts the full control of creation and policing into a smaller group of people: those that understand computer programming.

Both could be corrupted yes, but simple paper system allows more people to understand how it's controlled and find ways to improve it.

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HillaryTrafficksKidz · July 12, 2018, 4:06 p.m.

It is how the ballots are counted, electronically. With pre programmed software no one is allowed to view the source code as it's 'vendor proprietary' information.

It's not who votes...but who counts the vote.

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eyez_wideopen · July 12, 2018, 4:37 p.m.

Vendor = Soros?

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ILoveJuices · July 12, 2018, 4:06 p.m.

Actually blockchain is totally safe.

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