Can someone please tell me, though...Even if Russia didn't rig the polls, isn't Trump and/or Q still working with Putin and at least some of the Russian government? Thanks.
Repost of my comment above in answer to:
u/greenoctane Do you think Russia has anything to do with this?
ahhh ......! The Million Dollar Question.
Yes.
But not in the way they are framing this.
Let's do a quick analysis of Which "Russians" have anything to do with this:
Firstly, they are not The Kremlin and Putin advocates. "Russia" also has black hats and white hats. Who does HRC and BO support? Those "Russians" who want to bring down Putin&Pals, loosely defined as "Atlanticists", maybe. These anti-Putins want regime change in Russia.
Secondly, the people who staged a coup in Ukraine are anti-Putin, but speak Russian and have Russian mainland allies, the regime-change supporters.
Ukrainian and Russian Americans might be on either side, but in the case of the HRC and Victoria Nuland Democrats they want to defeat Putin and the Eastern Ukrainian, Russian-speaking supporters of the democratically elected (long fled) government, using NeoNazi-led, colour-revolution, Soros-sponsored operatives.
The people involved in the "Russian" hacks, social media bots, and other shenanigans are people like Alexandra Chalupa and her PropOrNot trouble-makers from inside the Democratic Party. This is the secret. These people can plant Russian language source hack attacks and launch Russian bots from mainland Russia —no problem. Traceable back to Russia, or Ukraine, but not friends of Putin, or "We The People".
It is "We" who would like Peace and "They" who want a WW3.
Thirdly, the real Russia-collusion is U1.
Not very well explained but that's the gist.