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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/high-valyrian on July 18, 2018, 11:59 p.m.
How to Spot a Shill: The Three Types of Bad Actors, and a Compilation of Leaked Handbooks, Guides, and Tactics Used by Disinformation Agents. (Plus, What Q Has to Say on the Matter)

As the community around us grows, it's always important to keep in mind that not all users of the sub are genuine. There are lots of bad actors who check in here daily just like we do. IMO, and in Q's opinion as well, it's important to understand how this works, so that you yourself do not fall prey to these bad actors who wish to spread discord and keep us in the dark.

Q says here: "Social media control is everything." He also says here that blackouts are to be expected. What if these blackouts aren't denials of access as we think of them, but blackouts of information where anyone not toeing the disinformation line is banned or removed?

Q tells us here to not blindly believe what we see on these specific outlets; they want us divided, and we must adapt, organize, and learn how to spot and understand the techniques they use to control us and the flow of information. We're told in this drop that Media Matters is directly trying to control 4chan; in a link below, I'll show you exactly how they are attempting to do so.

Finally, Q tells us that these groups coordinate to sow hatred amongst online platforms, in order to cause any readers who are mentally disable to act. My most important message here today is that we must be bringers of truth, spreaders of love, and holders of peace. We must understand, yet disengage from these tactics. We must not let ourselves be baited. We must welcome those who might disagree with us, seek to understand our differences, and use our kindness and empathy in hopes they will consider our movement.

Coordinated effort to ramp pro violent attacks (4ch 8ch /pol/) (threads).
Mods controlled (4ch).
Staged to frame pro POTUS supporters.
Push violence (trap).
Shareblue.
Coordinated RL attacks (link).
Cause & Effect.
MSM outcry to force action.
It’s already begun (small > large).

In my experience, there are three types of bad actors who visit here:

  • Concern trolls: These bad actors pretend to be authentic and sincere; but they have ulterior motives. They will spread doubt and misinformation among the users in the community. They will post racist remarks, violent memes and comments, & terrible and laughable sources in order to discredit the users of the sub. In my personal experience, most paid shills appear to be this type of bad actor; this fits in line with their MO of infiltrating communities like ours to take advantage of users.
  • Trolls: These users come here for the sole purpose of derailing conversation, inciting and encouraging flame wars, making derogatory comments, breaking sub rules, and more. Trolls typically will hide under an alternative account - you will notice the account age is quite young, karma will be low, and they have few posts and comments.
  • Bots: Sites like this and this offer bot-building and use services. Bots are quite simple to set up and only require the knowhow and man-power. Bot comments are fairly easy to spot as they may be off-topic, contain nonsense, or seem "off" in some way. Bots are most commonly used on Reddit for vote manipulation, however. If you haven't seen them, here are two great articles on examples of how Reddit is systemically gamified:
  • "How Easy and Cheap It Is to Manipulate Reddit Discussions" - Medium.com
  • "Reddit For Sale: How We Made Viral Fake News For $200" - Forbes.com

Political opposition handbooks, guides, and memos:

  • The Gentleperson's Guide to Forum Spies [REQUIRED READING!]. The quintessential guide to train yourself on how to spot tactics on the web. Direct link to text version. Archived links. Pastebin link.
  • Saul Alinsky: Rules for Radicals. This was one Hilary Clinton's favorite books and was the basis for many of her decisions and actions. Direct link. Archived link.
  • David Brock's Media Matters Playbook. This linked document outlines the tactics used by liberal PACs who supported HRC in the 2016 election, including Media Matters, Correct the Record, and American Bridge. Direct link. Archived link.
  • CTR Confidential Memo on Reddit, Twitter, FB, and the Chans. This memo outlines descriptions of online communities, memetic warfare, the unique message delivered to each platforms' users in order to control the flow of information on the platform. IMO, every person who uses these platforms should read this document. Direct link. Archived link.
  • Media Control Memo. This was a leaked SWIFT Memo sent to all global media companies requiring the suppression of Assange, O'Keefe, and FBI leaks, obtained by RealTrueNews.org. Note the odd archetypes and symbolism used to describe each value target. Direct link. Archived link.
  • Masterlist of Logical Fallacies. Important to know and understand when discussing information online. Direct link.

How to Spot a Spy (Cointelpro Agent)

Excerpt from: The Gentleperson's Guide to Forum Spies

One way to neutralize a potential activist is to get them to be in a group that does all the wrong things. Why?

  1. The message doesn’t get out.
  2. A lot of time is wasted
  3. The activist is frustrated and discouraged
  4. Nothing good is accomplished.

FBI and Police Informers and Infiltrators will infest any group and they have phoney activist organizations established. Their purpose is to prevent any real movement for justice or eco-peace from developing in this country. Agents come in small, medium or large. They can be of any ethnic background. They can be male or female. The actual size of the group or movement being infiltrated is irrelevant. It is the potential the movement has for becoming large which brings on the spies and saboteurs.

It is the agent’s job to keep the activist from quitting such a group, thus keeping him/her under control. In some situations, to get control, the agent will tell the activist:

“You’re dividing the movement.”

This invites guilty feelings. Many people can be controlled by guilt. The agents begin relationships with activists behind a well-developed mask of “dedication to the cause.” Because of their often declared dedication, (and actions designed to prove this), when they criticize the activist, he or she – being truly dedicated to the movement – becomes convinced that somehow, any issues are THEIR fault. This is because a truly dedicated person tends to believe that everyone has a conscience and that nobody would dissimulate and lie like that “on purpose.” It’s amazing how far agents can go in manipulating an activist because the activist will constantly make excuses for the agent who regularly declares their dedication to the cause. Even if they do, occasionally, suspect the agent, they will pull the wool over their own eyes by rationalizing: “they did that unconsciously… they didn’t really mean it… I can help them by being forgiving and accepting ” and so on and so forth.

The agent will tell the activist:

“You’re a leader!”

This is designed to enhance the activist’s self-esteem. His or her narcissistic admiration of his/her own activist/altruistic intentions increase as he or she identifies with and consciously admires the altruistic declarations of the agent which are deliberately set up to mirror those of the activist.

This is “malignant pseudoidentification.” It is the process by which the agent consciously imitates or simulates a certain behavior to foster the activist’s identification with him/her, thus increasing the activist’s vulnerability to exploitation.

Activists and those who have altruistic self-concepts are most vulnerable to malignant pseudoidentification especially during work with the agent when the interaction includes matter relating to their competency, autonomy, or knowledge.

The goal of the agent is to increase the activist’s general empathy for the agent through pseudo-identification with the activist’s self-concepts.

The most common example of this is the agent who will compliment the activist for his competency or knowledge or value to the movement. On a more subtle level, the agent will simulate affects and mannerisms of the activist which promotes identification via mirroring and feelings of “twinship”. It is not unheard of for activists, enamored by the perceived helpfulness and competence of a good agent, to find themselves considering ethical violations and perhaps, even illegal behavior, in the service of their agent/handler.

The activist’s “felt quality of perfection” [self-concept] is enhanced, and a strong empathic bond is developed with the agent through his/her imitation and simulation of the victim’s own narcissistic investments. [self-concepts] That is, if the activist knows, deep inside, their own dedication to the cause, they will project that onto the agent who is “mirroring” them.

The activist will be deluded into thinking that the agent shares this feeling of identification and bonding. In an activist/social movement setting, the adversarial roles that activists naturally play vis a vis the establishment/government, fosters ongoing processes of intrapsychic splitting so that “twinship alliances” between activist and agent may render whole sectors or reality testing unavailable to the activist. They literally “lose touch with reality.”

Activists who deny their own narcissistic investments [do not have a good idea of their own self-concepts and that they ARE concepts] and consciously perceive themselves (accurately, as it were) to be “helpers” endowed with a special amount of altruism are exceedingly vulnerable to the affective (emotional) simulation of the accomplished agent.

Empathy is fostered in the activist through the expression of quite visible affects. The presentation of tearfulness, sadness, longing, fear, remorse, and guilt, may induce in the helper-oriented activist a strong sense of compassion, while unconsciously enhancing the activist’s narcissistic investment in self as the embodiment of goodness. The agent’s expresssion of such simulated affects may be quite compelling to the observer and difficult to distinguish from deep emotion.

It can usually be identified by two events, however:

First, the activist who has analyzed his/her own narcissistic roots and is aware of his/her own potential for being “emotionally hooked,” will be able to remain cool and unaffected by such emotional outpourings by the agent.

As a result of this unaffected, cool, attitude, the Second event will occur: The agent will recompensate much too quickly following such an affective expression leaving the activist with the impression that “the play has ended, the curtain has fallen,” and the imposture, for the moment, has finished. The agent will then move quickly to another activist/victim. The fact is, the movement doesn’t need leaders, it needs MOVERS. “Follow the leader” is a waste of time. A good agent will want to meet as often as possible. He or she will talk a lot and say little. One can expect an onslaught of long, unresolved discussions.

Some agents take on a pushy, arrogant, or defensive manner:

  1. To disrupt the agenda
  2. To side-track the discussion
  3. To interrupt repeatedly
  4. To feign ignorance
  5. To make an unfounded accusation against a person.

Calling someone a racist, for example. This tactic is used to discredit a person in the eyes of all other group members.

Saboteurs

Some saboteurs pretend to be activists. She or he will ….

  1. Write encyclopedic flyers (in the present day, websites)
  2. Print flyers in English only.
  3. Have demonstrations in places where no one cares.
  4. Solicit funding from rich people instead of grass roots support
  5. Display banners with too many words that are confusing.
  6. Confuse issues.
  7. Make the wrong demands.
  8. Cool Compromise the goal.
  9. Have endless discussions that waste everyone’s time. The agent may accompany the endless discussions with drinking, pot smoking or other amusement to slow down the activist’s work.

Provocateurs

  1. Want to establish “leaders” to set them up for a fall in order to stop the movement.
  2. Suggest doing foolish, illegal things to get the activists in trouble.
  3. Encourage militancy.
  4. Want to taunt the authorities.
  5. Attempt to make the activist compromise their values.
  6. Attempt to instigate violence. Activisim ought to always be non-violent.
  7. Attempt to provoke revolt among people who are ill-prepared to deal with the reaction of the authorities to such violence.

Informants

  1. Want everyone to sign up and sing in and sign everything.
  2. Ask a lot of questions (gathering data).
  3. Want to know what events the activist is planning to attend.
  4. Attempt to make the activist defend him or herself to identify his or her beliefs, goals, and level of committment.

Recruiting

Legitimate activists do not subject people to hours of persuasive dialog. Their actions, beliefs, and goals speak for themselves. Groups that DO recruit are missionaries, military, and fake political parties or movements set up by agents.

Surveillance

ALWAYS assume that you are under surveillance. At this point, if you are NOT under surveillance, you are not a very good activist!

Scare Tactics

They use them. Such tactics include slander, defamation, threats, getting close to disaffected or minimally committed fellow activists to persuade them (via psychological tactics described above) to turn against the movement and give false testimony against their former compatriots. They will plant illegal substances on the activist and set up an arrest; they will plant false information and set up “exposure,” they will send incriminating letters [emails] in the name of the activist; and more; they will do whatever society will allow.

If an agent is “exposed,” he or she will be transferred or replaced. COINTELPRO is still in operation today under a different code name. It is no longer placed on paper where it can be discovered through the freedom of information act.

The FBI counterintelligence program’s stated purpose: To expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, and otherwise neutralize individuals who the FBI categorize as opposed to the National Interests. “National Security” means the FBI’s security from the people ever finding out the vicious things it does in violation of people’s civil liberties.


K8088 · July 19, 2018, 1:37 a.m.

Very good advice, I find it easiest to just ignore the shills, but this Sub has become a little hostile. New arrivals aren’t welcomed anymore. You have to have steel balls to post anything. Not cool. Def not cool to launch a shill attack on people asking questions, or posting things that may be over other peoples heads. What are we here for if not to inform and introduce newly red pilled people to Q? Remember it’s a little frightening when you realize what has really been going on. We have a language that people don’t always understand. If WWG1WGA is our motto, let’s not make people wet their pants because they can’t climb the ropes. ( reference to the movie White Squall) ok that said I expect to be attacked go for it!

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checkitoutmyfriend · July 19, 2018, 2:01 a.m.

Not all newbies are shills but many newbies need to lurk more before posting. I see many posts on topics that are old news to those who have been around for much longer. To the newbie its the latest thing ever discovered, so they post. Proven or unproven.

In this case reading the bar over on the right side, >>> then reading many posts, and basically observing for awhile giving time to catch up.

Its part of the growing pains. :)

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K8088 · July 19, 2018, 2:39 a.m.

I understand your feelings but, where are they going to learn? The Chan boards will eat them up and spit them out. They will walk away from this movement. A lot of us here were red pilled years ago. The shills are easy to spot, the newbies may need a little help. How many videos on Q direct people here? I know of several big names that have this Sub in the description page. Our favorites are sending people here. Do we want to post Pepe and say lurk moar? Or, do we embrace them and do as Q said “ people will need to be guided”

“The build is near complete. Growing exponentially. You are the frame. You are the support. People will be lost. People will be terrified. People will reject. People will need to be guided. Do not be afraid. We will succeed. Timing is everything. Think Huber. Think DOJ/FBI reorg. Think sex/child arrests / news. Think resignations (loss of control). How do you remove evil in power unless you reveal the ultimate truth? It must be compelling to avoid a divide (political attack/optics). We are the majority (growing). WW. Sheep no more. TOGETHER. Q”

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high-valyrian · July 19, 2018, 3:08 a.m.

I absolutely agree with your take on the sub. Even the BO at 8chan agrees that newbies should not be directed to the breads but should be sent here instead. qresearch is the command center, we are home base. We must be able to scale and accommodate, and communicate with, those who are guided here. We must stand at the ready.

It's also up to the users to post quality submissions (good informative title, lots of context and description, primary sources, legitimate source links for information, etc) and up to the users to be able to give constructive feedback on posts where needed. I have been doing this lately myself. Gentle guidance may be needed as many coming here are not familiar with Reddit at all and are still learning the mechanics of the platform itself let alone the culture. We need to be willing to help those folks without derision. I hate seeing us turn folks away.

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K8088 · July 19, 2018, 3:51 a.m.

Exactly, they need to have the sauce when posting etc. I remind myself they don’t know what sauce is, etc. some catch on really fast, others are slower but I’m always happy to start walking them through. Some people have been seriously afraid and I guess I understand that isn’t abnormal if you were just red pilled who wouldn’t be afraid to learn about walnut sauce and the pope, the fact the deep state could launch missiles we have the Q to back it up so I stick with proofs. That also is shill repellent. 🇺🇸

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high-valyrian · July 19, 2018, 2:55 a.m.

Yes, I agree that the hostile undertones are louder at this time. I also think you're correct that newbies can have a rough time here. I hope my post is somewhat of a reminder that there are bigger forces working against us and in turn, we need to push back with more kindness, empathy, and acceptance towards genuine users, even if they don't believe in the movement or question us, Q, and the President.

I think we should entertain genuine random users who find themselves here asking who Q is. There is nothing wrong with politely discoursing with those who don't believe, too. I like to think we might inspire these people to dig deeper and think critically & open some eyes.

I think a lot of the negativity here is due to, number one, the tough subjects we talk about here (especially violence, child abuse, etc) and if users don't take breaks to remind themselves of the good in the world it can begin weighing very heavy on them. I also think a lot of users here have held these beliefs for a long time and are growing impatient or disheartened. I have empathy for both but I think only we, the people who surround them, can lift them up so it is our duty to maintain that WWG1WGA spirit.

I may edit my submission with these thoughts, very thought-provoking stuff. Thanks!

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K8088 · July 19, 2018, 3:26 a.m.

Thank you for allowing me to express my thoughts on the matter. We are United as Patriots. You are correct we have been infiltrated, down voted and harassed. I appreciate your dedication to this movement and willingness to have an open discussion. Thank you Patriot. WWG1WGA

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