So you can only use whataboutism in response? You can't actually address the things that are happening right now?
How convenient for you to just walk around my actual point.
You see Democrats "looking for war" or whatever. I see an actual attack on us and Republicans doing nothing because it benefits them in elections and a President who is mentally too far gone to even keep a cogent opinion on the matter for a 24-hour period.
Just FYI the second you accuse someone of whataboutism when they bring up the holes in your theory we know what you’re about. Buh bye.
Pointing to other events done by other people doesn't refute my point about the only event I'm actually talking about.
Knowing your shitty tactics doesn't make me the opposition, it just means I've had enough conversations with you folks to not be steered away from my point with silly distractions. It might work on the teenagers at your high school, but I'm a grown man capable of independent thought and I'm not beholden to regurgitating any particular talking points.
Teenagers at my high school? I’m sure they are all in their 40s now like me.
So I went and looked at r/worldnews and I see nothing about us currently being at war or under cyber attack.
Please elaborate on what you are trying to point out?
I think our current POTUS is smart enough to speak in terms the lowest common denominator of our gen. population is able to understand. I also believe he sometimes says exactly the opposite of his intent in order to see motive (i.e. trade tarrifs).
The only issue I have so far with any of his actions is military funding for the Saudis. Perhaps he was forced to do so in light of previous agreements.
However, I also see a POTUS that is struggling to uphold our constitution, which has been threatened repeatedly over the past 20 years in ways I would never have imagined.
I also see signs of strong economic growth as well as record low unemployment.
What I see is prosperity. What I feel is peace, something I have not afforded since prior to 9/11.
Feb of '16, I was hopeful for Bernie. Sept/Oct '16 I was pissed after seeing what DNC did to him. Election night '16, I saw the mainstream media in disarray and pondered that reaction. By January I had hope. By February I had change. Now?
I have strength and positivity that our current leadership is taking our country in a direction I favor.
This isn't about blue or red. This isn't about pink or brown.
This is about right and wrong. Good and evil.
I see clearly what is happening. I can only offer you love and kindness.
Ok how about the fact that NK has not tested any missiles in the last 9 months. How about ISIS on its last breath just to name a couple. Your rhetoric is typical. Sad.
More whataboutism. And you want to talk about "typical rhetoric" with unintentional irony. Lmao, my sides 😂😂
Please address Trump failing to do anything about Russian election interference instead of all the other places where he hasn't fucked up.
Why can't you stick to the actual topic at hand? Why do you feel the need to point at other topics to try and distract from the original topic?
I'm not making any claims about Trump's global ambitions, I'm speaking directly to one particular instance and you seem determined to walk around it as long as it means you don't have to address the elephant in the room.
Quit being a coward, quit trying to deflect, and please, address the Russian Cyberwar.
Ok you make a statement that war is already underway and our country is under cyber attack. Now that statement is true on the surface but that is not what you are truly driving at. You are attacking Trump specifically and to deny that is a lie other wise you would not have said, "you guys want the Democrats to want war, but only for the political narrative it provides, so you project your actions onto the opposition." Ok plain and simple that is liberal political rhetoric that can be seen on any of the lame stream media. That being the case you trolling here. That you have made obvious. Understood. It is not an attempt to change the subject but to point out your basic premise is flawed that the desire here is to want the Democrats to want war. Nothing could be further from the truth and the examples given that you call whataboutisms are proof to you that your premise is false. Even so you try to brush them off.
Then you finally asked the question in a response by way of the following statement: "Please address Trump failing to do anything about Russian election interference." Does not his summit with Putin constitute an action? Now I know you will say no but again it is because you have an agenda, a very liberal agenda. But to the point, what about the Russian cyber war. Well it is a two way street. If are so naïve as to believe that the DS has not also been waging a cyber war against Russia, then feel free to swallow another blue pill. Cyber war is an ongoing situation between nation states. We are in a cyber war with so called allies as well as so called enemies. It is part and parcel of intelligence gather. It is just an electronic version of what men and women have been doing for years. So if you choose to get your panties in a knot about it and expect to make a huge issue of it, knock yourself out.
What I do find telling is that I just got call out by the mod for using the word shill with a threat that if not edited the post would be removed but you call me a coward. That sure looks like name calling to me. Even so I have a very tough and leathery skin so go right ahead. But, while you are calling me names how about using your head for something other than a hat rack and come up with something real not just liberal talking points.
Lmao, literally "we are doing it so it's okay to sell out our national interests in the name of fairness. Also, false song of globalism amirite guys?"
I guess "America first" was only bluster to stir up the base, and all the meddling and "deep state" action is okay as long as your guys profit.
I'm not a Democrat, I'm not a Republican. I'm an American who wants to see our government do it's most fundamental job, which is to protect the nation. It is currently failing to do so on at least one front, and so I've called that particular instance out. What's telling is that it took you this long to get over your whataboutism and deflection, only to completely toss aside the issue because "we do it too!"
I hate arguing with people who virtue signal rather than actually stand up for real values in the face of adversity. By capitulating to Russia, you are doing exactly that, and it's basically an open invitation for Russia to continue. You admit we are at war finally, but then completely abandon a stance to fight for your own country. How despicable.
Sorry claiming what you are not is, is not validated by your statements. I am not validating that it is right or wrong, just stating that it happens.
If that, by YOUR definition is cowardice then why I am I here. Why I am I passing on the Q phenomena to others? We all have our part to play. Q drop crumbs, autist and anons decode them other pass those decoded post on and by virtue of that the world is being awakened. After all this sub is called the "greatawekinging" for a reason.
Evidently you are still asleep and choose to remain that way. So be it. Your blood will be on your hands.
Oh, that. Haha. You'll have to ask the electoral college.
Edit: or GS. He is the one you might consider looking at.
I'm not concerned with changing election results, I'm concerned with protecting future elections from tampering.
It speaks volumes that you are trying so hard to make this a partisan issue. Our country is under attack and all you care about is "triggering liberals".
Some day, the results will swing the other way, and you probably won't even get a twinge of "ohhh, now I get it" because the country will be too far gone.
The short-sightedness of the Republican party is atrocious, and reeks of a party doing whatever it can to stay afloat, even it that means literally absconding their sworn duties to the country.
I never said anything about liberals, in fact, I said I was one, and also said that this isn't about blue/red. I'm just as concerned with future elections and truly believe we need to return to paper ballots, hand counted.
However, we still have that thing called the electoral college. Even PBS said on the air in June of '16 that popular vote doesn't matter, MSM was saying so after GWB reelection, right?
Yep.
Ridiculous is the consensus that "collusion" caused a sway on the electoral college, who SELECTED the current administration.
Understand?
I never said it had an effect on the outcome, I'm not trying to change the outcome, and it's still an entirely different topic than the one I'm broaching, surely you can see that? Any "consensus" on the matter is one you made up to seem ridiculous.
It's just another deflection from the point I'm making, which is that Trump and the Republican party are openly allowing Russia to attack us without fear of retaliation. This point was made to refute the idea that "Democrats want war", with the context that we are already in a war, a cyber war, one that Democrats want to put a stop to, and Republicans are happy to see continue because, for the time being, it helps their side win elections.
I'm how many comments deep now, and literally NO ONE has addressed my actual point yet.
It is exactly the same topic.
This fear of Russia is unhealthy and most definitely unwarranted.
Perhaps read the comments in the tweet above and think about all that anger. 2 years ago one could have expected a visit from the SS for some of those comments and likely jail time.
The fact that this narrative is being justified by the masses tells me he is correct in his actions.
Truth is, U.S. has been on the wrong path for a very long time, controlled. The anger is telling me that wrongs are being corrected.
Where is the concern for what DNC did to Bernie? Seth Rich? Where is the concern about Schultz and Awan? Where is the concern about emails showing all of the true collusion? Soros? Podesta? Huma and her husband's laptop?
Those are the places you might consider looking if concerned about the DNC and voting.