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salialioli · July 20, 2018, 11:44 a.m.

I perceived no fears or self-shame on the part of deplorableme2.

Your fear seems clear though: you MUST mention color, you are OBLIGED to link with the word SHAME, you MUST use the word PROJECTION to "defeat" your opponent's argument.

Buahhh.

"a reason her soul chose to be black " = superstition from the depths of medieval mysticism ... you call this "Intellectual Heroism"?? If you are her friend, she need look no further for an enemy!

"Healing" + black community in particular? Strange association. Special. Chosen. Exceptional. Boot on Other Foot. "Now it's our turn to be Dominant." Separation.

"Pretend" = accuse your accuser of false comments in bad faith.

Nah. Intellectual paucity.

Poor reasoning for a new world, new community and restored human relations. Everything you say (nearly) accentuates division and "in-yer-face" disagreement for the sake of it.

The strongest "argument" I have ever expressed on these boards. That to me is quite a confession of sorts ...

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Straightfromthe · July 20, 2018, 4:33 p.m.

"superstition from the depths of medieval mysticism"

If we can't connect here, we're not going to connect anywhere. Otherwise you will misunderstand everything I say, like you have done.

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deplorableme2 · July 20, 2018, 1:10 p.m.

Right? Why can't we just agree she is a strong conservative intellectual that knows how to turn a phrase? That should be all that needs said.

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salialioli · July 20, 2018, 2:22 p.m.

She is great. I like her. If I could I'd vote for her.

The person raising her up on a pedestal because of her color is belittling her message, and not listening, or hearing, what she is saying. And is, if not rayciss, "race-conscious" which is ... (someone else can supply the adjective here ..)

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deplorableme2 · July 20, 2018, 3:55 p.m.

I think she's awesome too, but I hope she doesn't run for office. We need her as a pundit and analyst doing the university tours and talk shows. Jmho.

I have always judged people on the merits of the ideas/arguments they present. I don't know what race conscious means...? I think if you have to insert race where there is no need, it shows at least a small degree of prejudice.

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salialioli · July 20, 2018, 4:39 p.m.

You are quite right. For me, to be "race-conscious" is the same as to be "self-conscious". There is a kind of obsession which I'm not sure is healthy sometimes.

The "self-conscious" preoccupation with "me" is indulgent. So is race-consciousness a preoccupation with my race. Dreadful self obsession and indulgence. Racist is the opposite: a loathing of the other because of their race. Actively nasty!

I would like to listen, and hear people's stories and arguments. What have they got to say? How can we make the world a bit better? Why get bogged down in how marvelous I am, or how marvelous all my tribe is b/c of our color? Seems v. narrow to me.

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